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« on: Saturday 25 October 14 13:41 BST (UK) »
Hi all was wondering for some help  i have a name i cant seem to find her birth or who her mother is so any info would be great
name Bridget Maria Gagan
born abt 1850 ,death 1917 aged 67 yrs at Port Pirie
married 1869 to Edward Markham  born 1839,death 1909 aged 70 yrs
married at St Patricks,  Undalya South Australia , grooms father Michael Markham brides father Michael Gagan she was from Pine Creek think she may have a sister name Anne Gagan as she was a witness at the marriage .
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« Reply #1 on: Saturday 25 October 14 14:20 BST (UK) »
Michael GAGAN of Pine Creek had a wife named Mary CROW/CROWE.

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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 25 October 14 21:38 BST (UK) »
As there is no birth for a Bridget Maria on the indexes it is possible she changed her name for the wedding a birth is recorded for a
Mary   GAGEN in 1847   Father Michael GAGEN   mother Mary CROWE in Adelaide ref # 2/22

The Surnames names are varied for this family under GAGAN, GAGHGAN, GAHAGEN, GAGEN.
MOTHER UNDER  CROWE AND CROW

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« Reply #3 on: Saturday 25 October 14 22:20 BST (UK) »
Something rings a bell with this family.  Perhaps we have helped you or another chatter :-\

MARKHAM Edward  27 years  Status single  Father Michael MARKHAM
GAGAN Bridget  19 years  Status single  Father Michael GAGAN
21 Apr 1969
At St Patricks Church, Undalya    Gil  Symbol V 79/257 

V. A variation exists in the spelling or interpretation of the names:
·   A slight difference in the spelling of the given or surname between
·   The Registrar's and the Bride and Groom's version. The bride and
·   Grooms spelling is preferred where it is clearly written.
·   The Registrar has recorded two versions.
·   Due to poor handwriting different interpretations of names are possible.

Could this be her sister marrying in 1871.

KELLY John 22 years  Status Single  Father John KELLY
GAGEN Ann 21 years Status Single  Father Michael GAGAN
27 Jul 1871
At St Aloysius Church, Sevenhill  Cla Symbol X  88/246
Cross Reference: GEOGHEGAN Ann
Registered twice with spelling variations for the bride surname.

Possibly siblings
GAGHAN John  24 years  Status Single  Father Michael GAGHAN
HUPPATZ Mary  24 years Status Single  Father Frederick HUPPATZ
21 Feb 1884
At St Stephens, Saddleworth   Gil 138/637

GAGHAN Michael Joseph  27 years  Status single  Father Michael GAGHAN
CUSACK Annie  23 years  Status Single  Father Patrick CUSACK
10 Jan 1889
At St Joseph RC Church Orroroo  Fro 158/136

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« Reply #4 on: Saturday 25 October 14 23:18 BST (UK) »
Biographical Index of South Australians
Not always accurate but an excellent resource to start your SA research.

GEOGHEGAN Michael 
Arrived by 1847.
Lived Marion
Religion Roman Catholic
Married Mary nee CROWE.
Children Mary 1847-, Bridget 1849-, Ann 1851-.

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 25 October 14 23:29 BST (UK) »
Births regs

GAGEN Mary
19 Oct 1847
Father Michael GAGEN  Mother Mary CROWE
At Sturt Bridge   Ade 2/22

GAGHAN Michael
6 Feb 1857
Father Michael GAGHAN  Mother Mary CROW
At Sturt   Ade 7/161

GAGAN Margaret
22 Apr 1862
Father Michael GAGAN   Mother Mary CROW
At Pine Creek   Cla 24/526

GAGAN James
27 Dec 1864
Father Michael GAGAN  Mother Mary CROW
At Pine Creek  Cla 34/576

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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 25 October 14 23:35 BST (UK) »
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01e23/
The South Australian Register  27 Nov 1847

CRIMINAL JURISDICTION. , - Gaghan V Baker .
George Baker, a bullock-driver, appeared to answer the complaint of Michael Gaghan, bullock-driver, for an assault on the 13th instant, near the Mt Kangoroo Hotel, on the Sturt road. .......................................

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 25 October 14 23:44 BST (UK) »
I note the difference in stated ages of BOTH bride and groom at the wedding in 1869. He states 27yrs but born 1839 she 19yrs. but 22 yrs if 1847?

Wondering if they are related to a couple of fellas I once motor raced against, the GEOGHEGAN Brothers. Both famous for wins at Bathurst and I could swear they came from SA. ::)

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 25 October 14 23:58 BST (UK) »
Bridget is noted as 19 years in 1869 so born c1850.  There is a 10 year gap from 1847 to 1857 where no births appear to have been registered to this couple.  Perhaps a visit to the Catholic Archives for a parish register search.  I searched my resource using G*G*N so should have captured all the registered births.

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Wondering if they are related to a couple of fellas I once motor raced against, the GEOGHEGAN Brothers. Both famous for wins at Bathurst and I could swear they came from SA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Geoghegan
Born NSW 1940
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leo_Geoghegan

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