ELIZABETH CULLEN

[derekseanbrown]

Things moving fast now ... death cert of ELIZABETH 1866 showing father JOHN CULLEN (tinsmith) mother JANE EMSLIE.

thanks
Sean

[Forfarian]

Didn't use credits to check index.

Neither did I. You can get to the year of death and the age fairly easily by fiddling with the search, and onec I've found a year and an age I usually stick in Glasgow, then Edinburgh, then Dundee, then Aberdeen to see if I can home in on where.

[Forfarian]

I have now received a copy of a memorial in St. Peter's (Spital) with ELIZABETH on it, referring to her and husband JOHN. Also on memorial it mentions John Cullen-blacksmith (no dates), Alexander Cullen-blacksmith (1773-1853)+wife Margaret Anderson (1766-1825) ...also Alexander Cullen (seaman) (1826-1883) + wife Margaret Brown (1819-1906)

1851 census, 21 Steps of Gilcomston, Old Machar: Alexander Cay, cooper; wife Mary Cay, 44, and father-in-law Alexander Cullan, widowed, 79, blacksmith, born Strathdon. So DoB about 1771/2.

Mary Cullen, daughter of Alexander Cullen and Margaret Anderson born 1804 in Newhills, Aberdeenshire, married Alexander Cay in Old Machar in 1844. There is also a Margret Cullen, father Alexander, mother not named, in 1806 in Newhills.

Further speculation: Could this Alexander be a brother of the William Cullen who married Charlotte Gordon and had a son John in Strathdon in 1794?

[ecksdochter]

Hello Sean,
     This death might interest you.
     Jane Cullen other name Emslie died 1867 age 73yrs at St Nicholas, Aberdeen. (ScotlandsPeople) Could be Elizabeth's mother which would let you go back yet another generation.
     Good luck with your search.
               Regards,     Dod.

PS. For Forfarian,
     Yes, that's what I do. County by County until I find a match, then Parish by Parish within that County. (Aberdeen has a awful lot of parishes) Same with dates. Start with a wide window then narrow it down 10yrs at a time. Once I find the right decade, narrow it down 1yr at a time. Pre 1855 dates can be worked the same way to find first the month, then the day. Able to help others that way, then up to them to use credits to check information out. (Always waiting for pension day to buy credits for my own Family Tree!)
               Regards,     Dod.

     

[derekseanbrown]

Thanks Dod ... have got a copy now of that and it all equates with the right family.

cheers
Sean

[ecksdochter]

Hello Sean,
     Possibilities for John Cullen. (2 different Charlotte Cullens or daughter Charlotte named on 2 different 1841 Census Returns? This one with her parents and the one Forfarian posted where she is with sister Elizabeth. Could be cousins or one of these is the wrong family!
          1841 Census. Dee St, Old Machar, Aberdeen.
     John  Cullen  50 *Linsmith  b Aberdeen. * Anc**try transcription error for Tinsmith?
     Jean      "     45                 b Scotland 
     John      "     18                 b Aberdeen
     Alexr.    "     16                 b     "
     Charlott "     10                 b     "

          1851 Census. 83 Castle St, Inverness. (Not sure about this one)
     John Cullen 60 Tinsmith b *Miolas, Aberdeen. * Anc**try transcription error for St Nicholas?
     Jane Cullen 54              b      "            "

          1861 Census. 87 Loch St, St Nicholas, Aberdeen.
     John  Cullen 72 Pauper b *Sbathdin, Aberdeenshire. * Strathdon perhaps?
     Jane  Cullen 68 Wife     b Banff, Banffshire.
     Charlotte  "  30 Dau     b Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.
     Arylind Close  6 Lodger b Glasgow, Lanarkshire.

     ScotlandsPeople has a death for a John Cullen, St Nicholas, Aberdeen, 1861 age 72yrs.
     
          Regards,     Dod.

     Added. The outline of place name Sbathdin (1861 Census) could be St Nicholas. Might be clearer on actual Census.
     

[Forfarian]

* Anc**try transcription error for Tinsmith?

FreeCEN has Tinsmith.
 

1851 Census. 83 Castle St, Inverness. (Not sure about this one)
     John Cullen 60 Tinsmith b *Miolas, Aberdeen. * Anc**try transcription error for St Nicholas?
     Jane Cullen 54              b      "            "

FreeCEN also has Miolas, so it must be pretty hard to decipher.

1861 Census. 87 Loch St, St Nicholas, Aberdeen.
     John  Cullen 72 Pauper b *Sbathdin, Aberdeenshire. * Strathdon perhaps?
     Jane  Cullen 68 Wife     b Banff, Banffshire.
     Charlotte  "  30 Dau     b Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire.
     Arylind Close  6 Lodger b Glasgow, Lanarkshire.

FreeCEN doesn't yet have 1861 for Aberdeen.

ScotlandsPeople has a death for a John Cullen, St Nicholas, Aberdeen, 1861 age 72yrs.

If I were Sean I'd be heading for SP again at a rate of knots

[derekseanbrown]

Am heading that way and making a few txt's to family members with findings as well as for more info.

cheers
Sean

[Forfarian]

Do let us know who John Cullen's parents were!