Prosser-breconshire

[s.k.]

Hi

I  am looking for : Ann Prosser Born about 1827/1828 in Breconshire.
Her father :Thomas Prosser
Her mother: Jane Williams.
 They were possilbly farmers. and mentioned on the Llangasty Talyllyn census.

I am trying to fill out their backgrounds in particular Thomas and Jane's parents.
 
Also Jeffrey Jeffreys: born 1820 and Christened 5 Nov 1820 in Llandeilor-fan Brecon.
I know his father was William Jeffreys and his mother was Syble, but I know nothing else about them.
any help would be appreciated.

regards

S.k.

[cardiff]

Hi
have you found them on 1841 census?
cheers cardiff

[s.k.]

Hi Cardiff,

no I am afraid I have been unable, so far to find anything about Jeffrey Jeffreys senior and wife Syble. they are a bit of an enigma.


regards

s.k.

[osprey]

Hello again,

Have you received the marriage certificate yet to confirm Jeffrey's occupation and name and occupation of his father?
There is no Jeffrey Jeffreys showing on the 1841 census of Wales that fits with a baptism in 1820 and certainly no Sybil Jeffreys or variant. This baptism from the IGI -do you know for sure that is his baptism or have you just assumed it is because it might be the right county? The problem with relying on the IGI in Wales is that most of the records are for the established church (Church of England) whereas the majority of the population were non-conformist. Marriages had to be performed in the established church at this time, but baptisms didn't so there are many, many baptisms that don't appear on the IGI.

If Jeffrey's father was also called Jeffrey, there is the Jeffrey already posted on the other thread who could be his father. There is also, at a push, this Jeffrey in Llangadog, Carmarthenshire - not too far from Llandeilo'r Fan
Penybont, HO107/1386/13 folio 28 pg 6
Jeffrey Jeffreys 70 farmer
Mary 65
both born in county

see also
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,228816.new.html#new

A better bet for parish records is the County Record Office
http://www.powys.gov.uk/index.php?id=647&L=0&

[s.k.]

Dear Osprey

First I have to issue an apology.
Jeffrey Jeffrey's father was called William, not Jeffrey. Somebody managed to find Jeffreys death certificate. Which has his fathers name, his own marriage to Anne Prosser in Brecknock Wales in 1846 and the names of her parents. it has Jeffreys age, date and place of death. jane was born in Wales in either 1846 or 1847, her brother Thomas was born in Vic in 1852, so they would have immagrated within that time span.

regards s.k.

[Les de B]

Unfortunately, I can't help you much with your inquiry, but was wondering if you could help me with an inquiry of mine regarding the PROSSER surname (I don't see it around too often).

Do you know anything of a Helen PROSSER? She was the first wife of my gg grandfather, Charles Joseph (de) BELIN. They married in 1815 in the Parish of Marylebone, and had a daughter Julia BELIN 1816 in Lyons, France. Charles was a Reverend, and his second marriage was in 1825, therefore it is presumed Helen PROSSER died between 1816 and 1825?

I do not know of any other details of her, do you?

Regards

Les

[osprey]

Hi Les,
have you posted a query on the London board? I doubt you'd get much local expertise on the Breconshire board!
 

Hi s.k.
thanks for the apology. I can understand the temptation to take details from the IGI but it needs to be resisted until you have documented what you have found so far. There's no Jeffrey Jeffrey with father William on the 1841 census in Wales. There are a few possibles but without knowing his age or occupation, I can't guess. You need to get his marriage certificate - I gave you the details on the other post now linked to this one. That will confirm his father, but also give occupations for both of them and with luck an age for Jeffrey.Even if we can't find the two of them together, we might find them separately. You say you have Jeffrey's age from his death cert, but haven't given it. You need to share the info for us to help you.
 

[osprey]

For the sake of completeness, I've found the badly mistranscribed Sybil, wife or Richard from the IGI entry.
1841 Maesmyrddin, Ysclydach, Llywel HO107/1367/12 folio 13 pg 10
Richard Jeffreys 45
Sibyl 50
Gwen 5
Hannah Davies 10
all born in county
daughter Sarah shows up as a female servant in Llandeilo'r Fan and son David an ag lab in Maescar, Devynock. Can't spot other siblings.
 

[s.k.]

Hi Osprey

Thanks so much with your help so far. No, I haven't got the marriage certificate just yet,  the reason being I don't have a credit card. So I am trying to dig around for a such information as I and everyone else can find. Then I will try to apply for one by post( If I can ).  Thanks for the Information on Sybil and gang. Though I think it may be from a different family.
I had no idea that Mums side of the family were predominantly Welsh.

Jeffrey Jeffrey died age 53 in 1884 at Melbourne hospital Victoria

regards

S.k.