Peter Stevenson's Ancestors

[sjme]

I am trying to find information regarding my great grandfather Peter Stevenson. He was born in Paisley in 1837. His father was John Stevenson, his mother was Jane Berry.

Peter married Elizabeth Campbell who was born in 1839. Her father was John Campbell, her mother was Agnes White.

Peter and Elizabeth were married in Paisley on December 30, 1859. They had 9 children: John 1860 (my grandfather), Peter 1862, Helen 1864, Agnes 1864, Jane 1866, James 1868, Janet 1872, Elizabeth 1874 and William 1874. All children were born in Paisley.
I would like to discuss information on Peter's and Elizabeth's parents i.e. dates of their birth, marriage and their ancestors.

Cheers, sjme

[AMBLY]

Hi sjme

Welcome to Rootschat   

You say Peter snr was born in Paisley abt 1837?
Are you sure about that?

The list of children you provided
John 1860 (your grandfather),
Peter 1862,
Helen 1864,
Agnes 1864,
Jane 1866,
James 1868,
Janet 1872,
Elizabeth 1874
William 1874

Looks for all the world like they belong to the following family (with 3 more children born after dau Elizabeth, and possibility child Helen b 1864 and Janet 1872 did not survive infancy)

1871: Paisley Middle Church
9 Back Sneddon Street
Head: Peter STEVENSON 33, Iron Stone Miner, b Bannockburn, Stirlingshire abt 1838
Wife: Elizabeth 31, b Paisley abt 1840
Son: John 10, b Paisely abt 1861
Son: Peter 8, b Paisley abt 1863
Dau: Agnes 6, b Paisley abt 1865
Dau: Jean 4, b Paisley abt 1867
Son: James 2, b Paisley abt 1869

1881:Dalziel, Lanarkshire
Glenhead Old Camp
Head: Peter STEVENSON 43?, Coal Miner, b Bannockburn Stirlingshire
Wife: Elizabeth 41, b Paisley
Son: John 20, b Paisley
Son: Peter 18, b Paisley
Dau: Agnes 16, b Paisley
Dau: Jane 14, b Paisley
Son: James 12, b Paisley
Son: William 7,  b Paisley abt 1874
Dau: Elizabeth 5, b Paisley abt 1876
Dau: Catherine 3, b Dalziel abt 1878
Son: Robert 1, b Dalziel abt 1880
Son: Alexander C. 1month, b Dalziel 1881

These two Census have the father/husband as born in Bannockburn Stirlingshire

Cheers
AMBLY

[AMBLY]

From the IGI - The Issue  (all b Paisley in extracted records) of Peter STEVENSON and Elizabeth CAMPBELL is:  (My guess, this is the the source of the list you gave above?) :-

John 1860
Peter 1862
Helen 1864
Agnes White 1864
Jane Berry 1866
James Walker 1868
Janet 1872
Elizabeth 1874 same dob as William (twin)
William 1874 same dob as William (twin)

On the IGI as a general rule, the records extracted from Parish books cuts off at around the 1873-1875-ish mark. So it won't generally show children born after that point.....

I would  suggest that William's twin Elizabeth died in infancy but definitely before 1876, and they named their next girl child the same name, Elizabeth in 1876. It may be that Helen and Janet also died before 1881, though they could be with other family members on Census night.

This is the family in 1891 & 1901

1891: Dalziel, Lanarkshire
Woodend Place
Head: Peter STEVENSON 54, Stone Miner, b Bannockburn, Stirlingshire
Wife: Elizabeth 52, b Paisley
Son: James 22, Coal Miner, b Paisley
Son: William 17, Coal Miner, b---kerman??  Renfrewshire
Dau: Elizabeth 15, b---kerman??  Renfrewshire
Dau: Katrine? 14, b Motherwell, Lanarkshire
Son" Robert 11, b Motherwell, Lanarkshire
Son: Alexander 10, b Motherwell, Lanarkshire

1901: Dalziel, Lanarkshire
88 Aubles? Street
Head: Peter STEVENSON 63, Miner (Coal) b Bannockburn Stirlingshire
Wife: Elizabeth 61, b Paisley
Son: James 32, Miner (Coal) b Paisley
Dau: Elizabeth 25, b Paisley
dau: Katrene 23, Dressmaker, b Motherwell
Son: Robert 21, Coal Miner, b Motherwell
Son: Alexander 20, Pony Driver, b Motherwell

So it would seem Peter and Elizabeth had at least 13 children born with 1 maybe 3, not living past birth/early childhood.

Cheers
AMBLY

[AMBLY]

Peter STEVENSON

This looks to be Peter in the 2 pre-marriage census.
Would need to check the actual image - if John is a widower,  it would seem Peter's  mother died between 1841 & 1851.

1841: St Ninians, Stirlingshire
Muir of Bannockburn
John STEVENSON 50, Coal Miner
Jean STEVENSON 40
William STEVENSON 16, Coal Miner
David STEVENSON 14, Coal Miner
Robert STEVENSON 12, Coal Miner
Agnes STEVENSON 9
Janet STEVENSON 6
Peter STEVENSON 3
ALL born STIRLINGSHIRE
http://www.freecen.org.uk

1851: Bannockburn Mine, St Ninians, Stirlingshire
New Town
Head: John STEVENSON 57, Coal Miner, b St Ninians
Son: William 27?, Coal miner, b St Ninians
Son: Robert 23, Coal Miner,b St Ninians
Dau: Agnes 20, b St Ninians
Son: Peter 13, b St Ninians

IGI marriage -  Extracted:
John STEVENSON and Jane BARRY - St Ninians Stirlingshire - 15 May 1819

Cheers
AMBLY

[sjme]

Hi AMBLY, I'm happy to say you have found the correct Census records of my g/grandfather's and g/g/grandfather's families. Thank you so very much. I have come up blank of late, I was starting to wonder if I'd ever find the info. The clincher is that the place of my g/grandfather's family residence listed in the 1891 Census i.e. Woodend Place. It is the residence listed in my grandfather's wedding certificate. Regarding the dates I posted in the original message: I am certain about my g/grandfather Peter's birth year at 1837, since his wedding certificate, dated 31 Dec, 1859, stated he was 22 at the time of the wedding, Elizabeth being 20. I was surprised at the additional children, it seems they had 14 (if you count Katrene, arriving 3 years after Catherine), rather than the 9 I had on record. It seems I must have many relatives running about that I have never encountered. I have the exact birthdates of the first 9 kids.
As a result of the other earlier Census listings (1841 and 1851) listing my g/grandfather's parents and siblings, I today found my g/g/g/grandfather's family from St. Ninian's, I'm 99 per cent certain. They were James Stevenson and Agnes Stuart. They had 7 children, my g/g/grandfather being the last born in 1791. I can now go farther back. Thank you again, for all of your comments. P.S. Are you an ancestor of Peter Stevenson?

Cheers, sjme

[Thermo]

John Stevenson = Jane Berry
William 1825, David 1827, Robert 1829, Agnes 1832, Janet 1835, Peter 1837
Peter Stevenson = Elizabeth Campbell 30th Dec 1859 Bilston St, Paisley
John 1860, Peter 1862, Agnes 1864, Jean 1866, James 1868
John Stevenson = Agnes Hillcoat 28th Feb 1890 Paisley
Mary McKaig Stevenson 19/04/1891, John 25/10/1892, Daniel 14/04/1894, James 29/09/1896, Emily 17/03/1897
Daniel Stevenson = Janet Ross 21st July 1926 District of Forres, Moray
John 23rd Jan 1929
John Stevenson = Winifred Margaret Paton 10th July 1957 Busby
David (me)1959, Katheryn 1960

I too was interested in the additional children

David

[sarah]

Hi David,

A huge welcome to RootsChat.

I am very sorry but our notification to sjme's email has bounced back to us I have tried to find an alternative email address but sadly I was unable to find anything new to try.

Regards

Sarah

[sjme]

John Stevenson = Jane Berry
William 1825, David 1827, Robert 1829, Agnes 1832, Janet 1835, Peter 1837
Peter Stevenson = Elizabeth Campbell 30th Dec 1859 Bilston St, Paisley
John 1860, Peter 1862, Agnes 1864, Jean 1866, James 1868
John Stevenson = Agnes Hillcoat 28th Feb 1890 Paisley
Mary McKaig Stevenson 19/04/1891, John 25/10/1892, Daniel 14/04/1894, James 29/09/1896, Emily 17/03/1897
Daniel Stevenson = Janet Ross 21st July 1926 District of Forres, Moray
John 23rd Jan 1929
John Stevenson = Winifred Margaret Paton 10th July 1957 Busby
David (me)1959, Katheryn 1960

I too was interested in the additional children

David

Hi David, John Stevenson born May 19, 1960 in Paisley, Renfrew (my grandfather), did not marry Agnes Hillcoat. He married  Elizabeth Wilson Devon on March 06, 1891 in Motherwell, Lanarkshire, Scotland. They had 8 children: Peter, Charlotte, Robert, Elizabeth, John, Lucy, James (my Father) and Catherine.

Peter Stevenson and Jane Berry are John's correct grandparents. My great-grandfather Peter Stevenson did marry Elizabeth Campbell and they had 14 (not 7) children. My grandfather John was Peter and Elizabeth's first child.

Cheers, sjme

[sarah]

Hi SJME,

I have just sent your a private message regarding your email notification not working, if you can advise I can fix the problem for you.

Regards

Sarah
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