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Ingham - Battle of Boyne
« on: Wednesday 07 May 14 15:57 BST (UK) »
My ancestor, Joseph Ingham, was a Captain under King Wm III and fought in the Battle of Boyne.  His brother, William was killed the evening before the battle.  He retired to County Caven and married a Kinsellagh?  I have recently learned that a paymaster general accts book was discovered in 2009 and was donated to the Orange Order.  Irish Family History has reported that the book is currently being filmed and will be available for viewing.  I tried to contact the Orange Order but got no response.  Does anyone know who is filming the book and how it be made available for viewing?

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Re: Ingham - Battle of Boyne
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 08 May 14 11:11 BST (UK) »
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8323461.stm

on this site from the BBC photos of the book, they should be able to help you.

I don't think you would get anywhere with the orange order.

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Re: Ingham - Battle of Boyne
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 08 May 14 13:04 BST (UK) »
I read somewhere that the description “details of every soldier who fought with King William..” is not quite accurate. I am told it doesn’t contain quite that level of detail.

There are some part-time archivists at Schomberg House. Contact details here:

http://www.grandorangelodge.co.uk/visit-schomberg-house#.U2tyHl4zJ_c
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Re: Ingham - Battle of Boyne
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 May 14 09:19 BST (UK) »
It would appear (unless I've got this wrong), that contrary to the hope (if not expectation) that the Paymaster General's Account Book would be made available by digitising it (or even transcribing it) online, the Orange Order has produced a school workbook based on its content:

http://www.grandorangelodge.co.uk/news.aspx?id=100671#.U2yHE4FdUvk

In this link, it states that "The original Paymasters General’s book, along with a wealth of items and artefacts relating to this history of Orangeism across the world, will go on public display as part of the extension of the Institution’s Belfast headquarters." I do not know whether this simply means the Book will be placed into some sort of presentation case, or if its content will be made available electronically to visitors.

The link goes on to say that "There are 1,400 names listed within its parchment pages relating to some of the soldiers who accompanied King William..." - I had previously seen references alluding to 400 names of officers, including a large contingent from France. So maybe this is news.

Below is the link to the school workbook, BUT BEFORE YOU DECIDE WHETHER TO CLICK ON IT, be advised that this PDF took several minutes to load for me, that it does not contain images from the original document, and that it is a wider story clearly aimed at a young schoolchild's understanding.

There is one page (listed as 17 at the top right corner) which confirms that only officers / high ranking members of the army were documented in the book.  It goes on to list surnames, Ingham isn't there, but then it may only be a selection of surnames.

http://www.grandorangelodge.co.uk/docs/paymaster-general-workbook.pdf

I would ask that anyone commenting on this post remember the saying "do not shoot the messenger".  :)


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Re: Ingham - Battle of Boyne
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 May 14 11:41 BST (UK) »
I guess this is your relative

http://www.goosefamily.org/families/ingham/001.htm

have you written to the orange order with a copy of this?

I guess if you write to them you would have to prove who you were.

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Re: Ingham - Battle of Boyne
« Reply #5 on: Friday 09 May 14 13:23 BST (UK) »
Thank you all for the input! Yes, that is my ancestor in Ron Goose's tree - the tree was initially put together by my grandfather's cousin. I did download and read the student workbook and have reviewed the other websites.  I've also emailed David Hume, provided details and asked for help...so we'll see!

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Re: Ingham - Battle of Boyne
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 May 14 12:10 BST (UK) »
http://www,libraryireland.com

do you know who he fought under Frederick Schomberg or Gobdet de Ginkell

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Re: Ingham - Battle of Boyne
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 May 14 12:24 BST (UK) »
Sorry...I have no idea who he fought under.

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Re: Ingham - Battle of Boyne
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 11 May 14 10:37 BST (UK) »
should be http://www.libraryireland.com

have you tried the records at Kew or Proni?