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Help me find the Howel family in the census PLEASE!?!?
« on: Friday 18 April 14 14:03 BST (UK) »
I'm struggling to find a family in the census.
Mary Jane Howel bap. 1850 Jan, Chapel Hill, Tintern, Monmouthshire
Her father: David Howel, a publicna in 1850
Her mother: Eliza Howel

I'm struggling to find this family in the census; can anyone help me?
NB: I believe that Mary Jane Howel married circa 1872; anything later and he surname was Parker.

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Help me find the Howel family in the census PLEASE!?!?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 18 April 14 14:12 BST (UK) »
I can see a likely looking Howell family in 1851 with a daur Mary J age 1 year, b Chapel Hill, but the father is a Tiler and Plasterer.

Pontysaison(?)
Chapel Hill
David Howell 38 b Monk Tellick(?) Grange
Eliza 31 or 31 b Chapel Hill
Henry 7
Eliza 5
Ann 3
Mary J 1
Hannah Hopkins? (transcribed as Stephens :-\ servt 18
HO107/2443/243/23

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Re: Help me find the Howel family in the census PLEASE!?!?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 18 April 14 14:15 BST (UK) »
In 1861 they're at Howells/Howell Cottage in Chapel Hill.  David, a plasterer, and Eliza, and five children:

Eliza 15
Annie
13
Mary Jane 11
Edward 9
Tom 1

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Re: Help me find the Howel family in the census PLEASE!?!?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 18 April 14 14:17 BST (UK) »
I can see a likely looking Howell family in 1851 with a daur Mary J age 1 year, b Chapel Hill, but the father is a Tiler and Plasterer.

Yes, I see that family too.  Matches in 1861 with children Eliza 5, Ann 3 and Mary Jane 1.  There's also a 7yo son called Henry.
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Re: Help me find the Howel family in the census PLEASE!?!?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 18 April 14 14:21 BST (UK) »
In 1861 David's POB is Trellecks Grange, and he is a Plasterer.
RG8/3976/94/5

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Re: Help me find the Howel family in the census PLEASE!?!?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 18 April 14 14:25 BST (UK) »
In 1871 I think they are at the same address. David is still a Plasterer. They have an additional son Sidney aged 9, and daur Louisa R aged 8.
RG10/5295/32/9

Same in 1881, minus all but two children. David is still a Plasterer.  :)
RG11/5219/104/17

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Re: Help me find the Howel family in the census PLEASE!?!?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 18 April 14 14:34 BST (UK) »
Eliza is a widow by 1891, living in what looks like the same place, she has an indecipherable occupation.
RG12/4336/93/15

Eliza is still around in 1901 aged 80, bless her, and is a Refreshment House Keeper. living Howell's Cottage.
Rg13/4916/66/3

Sadly, I think she is gone by 1911 ...

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Re: Help me find the Howel family in the census PLEASE!?!?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 18 April 14 15:03 BST (UK) »
Cannot find Mary J in 1871 census

Is this her in 1881 (will transcribe as the image reads )
5 Church St  Tredegar Mon
Lidweep Parker Head M 30 Bailiff Tredegar County Court Sutton Willsher
Mary J(or L?) wife 31 Monmouthshire
Albert S son 9 London

then
1891
5 Old Row Newport Mon
Sydney Parker Head M 40 Engine Driver Sutton Valley? Wilts
Mary J wife 40 Tintern Mon
Albert S son 19 coal miner Tredegar Mon
Ernest T son 9 Tredegar Mon
Henry R son 7 Abercarne  Mon
Mabel daughter 5 Abercarne Mon
Louisa daughter 3 Abercarne Mon
Stanley Son 1 Heulls?(possibly  Stanley Howell Parker b 1890 died 1898?)
RG12 4379 131 7

1901
Llannhangel Mon
Two? Trees Cottages
Sidney Parker Head M 50 Iron worker Sutton bury? Wilts
Mary Jane wife 51 Tintern Abycynon
Ernest T? son 19 Miner Tredegar Mon
Henry R son 17 Mon
Mabel daughter 15 Tredegar Mon
Edward J? son 17 Henliss
RG13 4966 24 4

Suz
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Re: Help me find the Howel family in the census PLEASE!?!?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 18 April 14 15:22 BST (UK) »
can find Sidney Parker in 1851/61 but not 1871

This looks like David Howell in 1841
Trelleck Grange Mon
Edward Howell 60 Farmer
Ann 60
Edward 35 Painter
David 25 Plasterer
Susannah 20
all b in county
HO107 747 26 7 7

can't find a marriage for Mary Jane and Sidney _ she gave some of the children Howell as a middle name

a puzzle???

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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