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Offline Nickuebel

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Re: Possible family connection in USA
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 26 November 14 19:36 GMT (UK) »
Yes I suppose that could be true. Sorry if I seem a little slow but this detective work is a little new to me. Fascinating though,

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Nick

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Re: Possible family connection in USA
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 26 November 14 22:48 GMT (UK) »
You'll learn a lot by just doing it.  Those of us who have been doing it a long time are still learning, and it's always good to have multiple brains working on an answer.

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Re: Possible family connection in USA
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 27 November 14 08:05 GMT (UK) »
Something more to throw into the pot.

Given that he must have gone to the States and then come back you’d expect to find some shipping manifests/entry forms for him in both countries and there’s a fairly narrow window to check. Can’t find anything concrete which is a surprise to me. Closest I can find so far is…

Mr F.C. Ebel, 7 August 1895. Arrived Southampton, embarked New York.
The manifest looks complicated and it’s difficult to tell what the ship is called SS Saale, Aller, Spave  or all three??? Either way the voyage looks to have originated in Shanghai and been destined for Bremen via NY and Southampton but it is a German ship.

Looked at the marriage details and it appears his wife was Sophie Koehnlein b1871-ish and from Rogenbach? Wuthernburg so the same region as Christian. Where they met is anyone’s guess - Hull? Can’t get anything on her in the UK prior to marriage.

I also had a look at the Chicago directories - no Christian during the period but a couple of entries for a William Uebel, Meatmarket, 144 Webster Av. Could be related - name and occupation? Looks like he ended up as a machinist in the later entries though.
Surnames: O'Neil, Beechinor, Ames, Dickers
Locations: Clonakilty, Cashilisky, Fourcuil, Ringroe, Knuckskagh, New York City, Ohio, Canada, Liverpool.

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Re: Possible family connection in USA
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 27 November 14 08:06 GMT (UK) »
Missed the post before mine - too true shellyesq.
Surnames: O'Neil, Beechinor, Ames, Dickers
Locations: Clonakilty, Cashilisky, Fourcuil, Ringroe, Knuckskagh, New York City, Ohio, Canada, Liverpool.


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Re: Possible family connection in USA
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 27 November 14 13:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi Nick,

I’m quite confident with this:

Christian Frederick Uebel
b 1867 Brownsbach, Wurthenberg
d 1 Mar 1937, Hull
Probate: left £11,144 to wife, Christolph Friedrich Kress (butcher) and William Morgan (solicitor)

married JSA 1896 Hull

Sophie Koehnlein
b 1871 Rogenbach, Wurthenberg
d 26 Aug 1943
Probate: left £3,048 to Hannah Sophia (spinster) and Charles Henry (butcher)

Children:

Elsie Rosina Louisa
b JAS 1897
d April 1984, Beverley

John Christian
b OND 1898
d OND 1897

Ludwig Christian
b OND 1900
d JAS 1901

Hannah Sophia (Anna) (married Daniel R. Sonley, AMJ 1972, Hull)
b AMJ 1902
d Jan 1990, Hull

Charles Henry (Carl)
b OND 1905
d Dec 1975, Beverley

Laura Freda. M. (married Leonard J. Crawforth, AMJ 1939, Hull)
b JFM 1912
d July 1990, Beverley
Surnames: O'Neil, Beechinor, Ames, Dickers
Locations: Clonakilty, Cashilisky, Fourcuil, Ringroe, Knuckskagh, New York City, Ohio, Canada, Liverpool.