ROSETTA FULLARTON

[p.strauss]

I am researching Fullarton of Fullarton, and particularly Colonel William Fullarton and his stated daughter Rosetta.

She could not have been the product of the Colonel's marriage in 1792 and marry herself and have a child in 1796.

The Colonel may have been her father but I am seeking to establish who may have been her mother.
Peter
Melbourne
Australia

[down-under]

 Stuart Murray Fullarton married Rosetta Fullarton  4th Jan 1796 Dundonald Ayr

Pam

[trish1120]

Familysearch has that Marriage and has her Father as Col. Fullarton.

From Trees he was William born 1754 Edinburgh.
He may have been married twice given he would be 38ish when he married 1792.
Unfortunately their are a lot of possible Marriages for him in Scotland 1774.

Have you established when he was Governor of Trinidad?
He may have married there.

Welcome to Rootschat

[MonicaL]

I saw mention on google books of a Margaret Blair of Ardblair as a wife to Colonel William Fullerton - www.rootschat.com/links/0xrd/  I think the year for this google ref. is 1790?

There is this possible marriage https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYS1-P5T

This marriage year of 1765 cannot fit with the profile of the Col. William Fullerton we are discussing here 

His dates are given as c. 1754–1808. Son of William of Fullerton (d. 1758) of Fullarton, Ayrshire,and a Barbara Blair, daughter of a William Blair. This William inherited big chunks of Ayrshire following his father's death in 1758.

He went to Edinburgh University and then went on a grand tour between 1769–71.  In 1774 he entered Lincoln's Inn, but then gave up law to concentrate on the diplomatic service and in 1775–8 was based in Paris as secretary at the Embassy. He was then elected MP for Plympton Erle in April 1779.

All of this covered here I think www.ayrshirehistory.org.uk/Bibliography/monos/Improvement.pdf also newspaper coverage of these events.

Wonder how this fits in with him possibly fathering Rosetta c. 1777? Could there be another William Fullarton...unlikely with the reference to Colonel as Trish has found on the marriage entry on family search 

Have any of the researchers viewed the entry on the Old Parish Registers?

Peter, I can see a lot of the posts etc over the years on various sites. It all feels like you are so close but just missing a certain key piece of info 

Monica

PS: Welcome to RootsChat from me too 

[MonicaL]

Any mention of witness names for the children of Stewart Murray Fullerton and Rosetta Fullerton that could provide you with clues?

From their children's names following their 1796 marriage, in case we can get further clues from there (sure you have this Peter!):

George 1796 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYZB-33J
Barbra 1798 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTKH-XW5
William 1799 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTKH-4H5
James 1801 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTKH-NHL
John Campbell 1802 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTKH-4H
Marianne 1804 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTR5-BX8
Robert 1806 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTR5-TFJ
Stewart Murray 1807 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYZB-QJC
Margaret 1809 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTVF-C62
Crawford Rose 1814 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XT5X-XJD
Annabella Crauford 1813 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VQH5-657

There is also a daughter Robina showing in Wills & Testaments on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk not showing above who died on 17 May 1881.

What were the names of Stewart Murray Fullerton's parents? Was this his birth to father George? https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTJZ-Q83 Do you know his mother's name? Possibly this marriage which fits well with the early born children's names to Rosetta and Stewart https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XT23-WNB

Monica

[MonicaL]

Have you established when he was Governor of Trinidad?
He may have married there.

Trish, I think his time in Trinidad was later, sometime between 1798 -  1 Jun 1801 www.worldstatesmen.org/Trinidad.html  This http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Picton shows it a little later, but not by much. Sounds like the Trinidad period was very troubled.

Also this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Fullarton

[p.strauss]

Hi Pam, Trish and Monica,
Thank you for your welcome and your responses. I will try to explain what I know of the matters you have raised.
*Stewart Murray Fullarton (Stewart) married Rosetta Fullarton (Rosetta) on 04/01/1796 at Fairfield house, owned by William Fullarton of Fullarton (William) and the home of William’s mother Barbara Blair. The marriage was probably conducted by the minister from Dundonald and it was certainly registered there, I have a copy of the OPR.
In 1808, the year that William died in London Stewart had the 1796 marriage registered in the Irvine church Register.
Rosetta had a child, George, born on 12/12/1796.
*Family search and a number of histories that I have read state that William was Rosetta’s father but do not state a mother, the Dundonald marriage registration states that William was her father. There are other Histories which state that William married the Hon. Marianne MacKay and had a child Rosetta. This leaves up in the air whether child was William’s or William and Marianne’s.
The Book of MacKay states that Marianne had no children.
*William was Chief Commissioner (Governor) of Trinidad from 1801 to 1803. There is no record of him marrying there; he was already married to Marianne. He seemed to spend much of his time arguing with one of his fellow Commissioners Lieutenant Colonel Thomas Picton over the torture of a Spanish woman, Luisa Calderon, on the Piquet. This led to the prosecution of Picton which returned a guilty verdict which was later overturned by which time William had died.
*I have copies of all the events pertinent to this conundrum that I have been able to find on ScotlandsPeople.
*The names of Stewart and Rosetta’s children are all represented somewhere in the family in close previous generations.
*The daughter Robina was a child of Stewart’s second marriage to Isabella Buchanan Muir
*Stewart’s parents were George Fullarton of Bartonholm and Barbara Innes. Stewart was not baptised until a year after his birth and this was done on the Isle of Bute, George was chastised , on the Register, by the minister for leaving it so long, the register states that Stewart was born at Barton Holme.
I have researched the Fullarton Family, or at least the line that leads to me, back to Alanus de Fowlertoun in the 13th Century. Stewart Murray Fullarton is my GGGG grandfather.
Cheers
Peter
Melbourne