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Archibald Buchanan m Isobel Thomson Tranent 9 Nov 1755
« on: Friday 12 January 07 12:53 GMT (UK) »
I am looking to confirm dates around these people whoa re the farthest Buchanan's I have on my tree at the moment. Unfortunately, at present all data that I have comes from submitted records on LDS site. I would like to find out how to confirm dates and names etc.

Archibald Buchanan birth given as around 1730, given the geography he would have been 15 when Battle of Prestonpas took place in his area in 1745.

Isobel Thomson, his spouse is given born around 1734. Another search on Lanarkshire site suggested another Isabel Runciman Thomson, and I would like to confirm whether the same person or not.

The date of marriage 09 Nov 1755 at Tranent is also submitted, so it all leaves me with some doubts.

Tom
Scotland - Buchanan, Thomson, Pat(t)erson, Stewart, Ritchie, Tracey
Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Pat(t)erson.

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Re: Archibald Buchanan m Isobel Thomson Tranent 9 Nov 1755
« Reply #1 on: Friday 12 January 07 15:08 GMT (UK) »
You may be able to confirm at least the marriage on ScotlandsPeople. I don't have any credits but a search in 1775 for a marriage between
Buchanan (with soundex) given name arch*  and spouse name is* gives 1 result.  I find when a submitted IGI record gives an exact date, the submitter has often seen the parish record (or another reliable source). When it says About or around & only a year - it is more likely to be a guess.

The birth dates on the IGI are probably estimates based on the marriage date.

You could look for the births on SP - noting that you may have to use wildcards to pick up transcription errors or variations in spelling (very common in the oprs)

Trish
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Re: Archibald Buchanan m Isobel Thomson Tranent 9 Nov 1755
« Reply #2 on: Friday 12 January 07 21:47 GMT (UK) »
There are two baptisms recorded in Tranent for children of Archibald Buchanan and Isabell Thomson - but they are before 1775:

Jean born 8 Feb bapt 20 Feb 1763
Archibald born 18 Sep bapt 27 Sep 1767

Not sure where you go from here.

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Re: Archibald Buchanan m Isobel Thomson Tranent 9 Nov 1755
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 13 January 07 10:15 GMT (UK) »
I think Trish maybe transcribed incorrectly, I typed 1755 and Trish wrote that as 1775. These are the 2 children that I am try prove along with marriage of parents, Are these the baptismal entries from the LDS site. I think that these are submitted records, what I was trying to do was where would need to look to get confirmation. The SP site does not have this marriage, but it could be that the date on LDS is wrong. A 1755 marriage first child almost 8 years later is not the usual.

Would the OP records at Tranent still have the original entries, I would be able to go through and check, depending on where thay ae held now I am not too far away. Do not think SP is going to be able to assist, i spent a lot of time and credits but unable to confirm these people previously mentioned.

Tom
Scotland - Buchanan, Thomson, Pat(t)erson, Stewart, Ritchie, Tracey
Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Pat(t)erson.


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Re: Archibald Buchanan m Isobel Thomson Tranent 9 Nov 1755
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 13 January 07 10:38 GMT (UK) »
Many apologies Tom - I did indeed - not a good week - how interesting that I found a couple of marriages in the wrong year!!

I shall have another browse, maybe I checked the correct date and wrote the incorrect date. If SP will give me my 9 credits they said they would update - I could even check the results  :D

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Re: Archibald Buchanan m Isobel Thomson Tranent 9 Nov 1755
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 13 January 07 10:39 GMT (UK) »
Ohh I just got my credits back - how exciting
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Re: Archibald Buchanan m Isobel Thomson Tranent 9 Nov 1755
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 13 January 07 10:42 GMT (UK) »
Direct from my 90 day credits  :D   :D  - the marriage from SP

09/11/1755 BUCHANNAN ARCHIBALD ISABEL THOMSON/FR1320 M TRANENT 722/00 0006

If you wait a couple of weeks the images will be available (although perhaps no more information)

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Re: Archibald Buchanan m Isobel Thomson Tranent 9 Nov 1755
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 13 January 07 10:55 GMT (UK) »
And only the two children that I can easily find
27/09/1767 Buchanan Archibald Parents  Archibald Buchanan/Isabell Thompson  TRANENT
20/02/1763 Buchanan Jean Archibald Buchanan/Isabell Thompson  TRANENT

Based on the information from Little Nell - these are the baptism dates. I wonder why SP don't use the birth dates?

There are a few Archibald Buchanans having children around the same time - Glasgow and Greenock - so finding any records for Archibald Snr could be tricky unless he was definitely baptised in Tranent

Trish
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Re: Archibald Buchanan m Isobel Thomson Tranent 9 Nov 1755
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 13 January 07 11:13 GMT (UK) »
Do you think the old parish records would show more info..parents  etc. Archibald Buchanan was a very common name, I checked some of the SP site and one of them had a parent called Coll or Call, never seen that used before, would love to be able to pin them down. I may have to wait until SP put images online, then.

Tom
Scotland - Buchanan, Thomson, Pat(t)erson, Stewart, Ritchie, Tracey
Ireland - Tracey, Conroy, Pat(t)erson.