Alexander Patty

[mlpatty]

I have found that Alexander Patty lived and died on the Isle of Man.  He was a miner and died on 17 November 1858, in Kirk Patrick.  He was married to Elizabeth and had several children.  What I cannot determine is whether he was born on the Isle or immigrated.  I have a birth date of 1816, no month or day.  I'm trying to find out his parents names.

[..claire..]

Hi

I think Ive found him in the 1851 census, on it he says he was born in IRELAND. Here are the details

Patrick: Ballamooer

Alexander PAtty hd mar 30 lead miner bn Ireland
Elizabeth            wf    " 34   "      " wife bn Isle of Man, Malew
William             son       9  scholar         "    "    "    "       "
Eliza                dau       7      "              "    "    "    "   Patrick
Mary Ann           "         4                                             "
Ellen                  "         2                                             "

Class HO107 Piece 2523 Folio 59 Page 14.

claire

[KGarrad]

www.imuseum.im is the place to look, but not much in the way of details?

Marriage, 12th February 1842, Marown parish
Alexander Patty to Elizabeth Bridson
(no fathers names)


Baptisms
24th September 1848   Elenor - Patrick parish
4th February 1844  Elizabeth - Patrick parish
2nd August 1846  Mary Anne - Patrick parish

[KGarrad]

There is also this marriage:

3rd September 1844     German parish
Eliza Patty  to  Thomas Cain
(Again no fathers names)

[KGarrad]

I have asked the moderators to move this thread to an Isle Of Man board

There are some IoM experts who may be able to shed some light on Alexander?!

[mlpatty]

Wow, you guys are fast!  Since he came from Ireland, would there be immigration or ship passenger records I could look for to narrow down where in Ireland he came from?

[KGarrad]

Ireland was part of the United Kingdom until 1922.

There are no shipping passenger records for travel within the UK!
Immigration is the wrong term as well.
If I move house from Somerset to London, I don't have to emmigrate/immigrate, do I?


Looking at the 1901 census, nearly everyone with the surname Patty is in County Down - Holywood, Belfast.

[mlpatty]

Again, you are fast, thanks so much for the info, hope to travel to the Isle of Man and Jersey.

[KGarrad]

On the 1841 Isle of Man census there are 8 people with the surname Patty.

Alex, 25, Male Servant, Garth, Kirk Marown
Ann, 30, Ballwillin, Patrick
and her son? James, age 2
Eliza, 20, Female Servant, Tolloe Quayle, German
Helen, 15  Female Servant, Patrick
James, 25, Male Servant, German
Mary, 20, Independent, Conchan  born England