Can't find Death

[brushbroomstick]

For some tome now I have been trying to find the death of my gr gr grandfather James HENRY born c 1821 in Londomderry.
He married and had children in Newcastle upon Tyne/ Durham  - the last child Elizabeth being born in County Durham in the June Qtr. of 1857. His wife Joan remarried in April 1860 but try as I may I have not been able to find the death of James.
I sent for a death cert. for Oct. 1856 in Easington which I thought was sure to be his but it turned out to be for an infant.
I have looked up all the deaths for James HENRY for the whole of England from Sept. 1856 to Dec 1859 and have come up with 9. I did this because he was a coalminer and I thought perhaps he had died away from his home.
I have also looked up all the various lists of men killed in pit disasters from 1856 to 1859 throughout the country but again with no success apart from one in Bardsley Ashton under Lyme on 2/2/1858 where there is a "james (surname unknown) a stranger ". I thiought perhaps this could be him but have not found a corresponding death registration.

Any help would be appreciated.

Irene

[wozzle]

on the first line of your post his name is thomas henry
after that you refer to him as james henry
is it thomas henry or james henry we are looking for
mick

[jayaydee]

Hi
I can't find a marriage for Joan - should it be Jean?

[Ecneps]

Hi all,

1851 census shows James & Joan HENRY - so just a typo in the heading I think!

at Market Place, St.Andrew, Auckland
HO107 Piece  2385 Folio 208 Page 25
James 29 Coke Burner  Londonderry Ireland
Joan   28                    Northumberland Kenton
William 8                    Durham  Pelton
Thomas 6                   Durham Framwellgate Moor
Margaret 4                 Durham          "             "
Teasdale 1                 Durham Sunnybrow

1861 census shows Elizabeth b. Gateshead + 2 further children to the remarriage b.1858 and 1860, so as Irene says, death for James should be 1856-1858, and either Auckland or Gateshead

Irene, it's best to check for known details with the local registrar (usually free) or with the GRO (who charge for checking), before parting with your £7 cert fee

Barbara

[Ecneps]

 

I can't find a marriage for Joan - should it be Jean?

marriage possible?
Mar 1842 Newcastle Tyne    25   305
 HENRY  James      and on same page    STOTT    Joan

The 1860 marriage has forename as Jean on freebmd index, but image shows Joan

Irene, have you checked this marriage cert to confirm that Joan was a widow when she married George Peverly?


Barbara     

[brushbroomstick]

I had thought about checking the birth record of child Elizabeth to see whether father was shown as deceased.
I do not have the marriage certificate of Joan and George Peverley. I think the child born 1858 was to a previous marriage of George Peverley but that needs further investigation.

Irene

[Ecneps]

I had thought about checking the birth record of child Elizabeth to see whether father was shown as deceased.

That's a good idea, would narrow down the possible death date - of course it's possible they were divorced, haven't been able to find his death as yet unless as you thought, he might have been working away from home

Barbara

[angelfish58]

Just to confuse the issue there's a Sunderland burial for a James Henry age 30 in 1851 (Durham Records Online). I've just had a quick look at the 1851 census and there doesn't appear to be a James Henry in Sunderland, but I might've missed him, so I wonder if your man went there for work after the census or if it's just a coincidence.

Elizabeths birth cert/ baptism might well be worth a look. (sorry, there are so many illegitimate children in my tree it's nearly always my first thought  )

[brushbroomstick]

In 1851 my James was with his wife Joan and 4 children living at Market Place Bishops Auckland. His occupation was "Coke Burner".  Just to be misleading I thought he was a coal miner!

Irene