Filip Brljevich

[Beg Clonrode...]

Hello...

Following on from the naturalisation details supplied by Lucy...

This might be a red herring but the only Mate BRJLEVICH (BRJLEVIĆ) who gets a mention in the mid-1880's Metković birth registers happens to be a father of twins.

Here are images of the Register entries...

Entry no.60
BRJLEVIC,Ivan_1884birth.jpg
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0yhs/

Entry no.61
BRJLEVIC,Jela_1884birth.jpg
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0yhr/

You can download the images to your computer by clicking on the "Download" button. You can then zoom in and read the entries a lot easier.

Here's a rough translation...

Born: 28 Prosinac (December) 1884
Baptised: 1 Siječanj (January) 1885

Child's name: Ivan BRJLEVIĆ
Child's name: Jela BRJLEVIĆ

Zakonit/Zakonita (Legitimate)

Mother: Mara MARINOVIĆ
Father: Mate BRJLEVIĆ

Both parents reside in Metković
Parents were married on 25 Veljača (February) 1884
Married in the Roman Catholic Church

Godparents: Stipan VUICA and Stana RADIĆ
Witness: Pero VUKSA


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Croatia, Church Books, 1516-1949
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/2040054


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If you want to take this further I think you need to go backwards.

Here's the 1884 marriage of Mate BRJLEVIĆ and Mara MARINOVIĆ as a starting point.

BRJLEVIĆ_MARINOVIĆ_1884marriage.jpg
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0yht/

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My thinking is that as Momic/Momici (mentioned earlier by Lucy) is just a few miles from Metković this Mate and Mara BRJLEVIĆ are somewhere in the picture. Unfortunately they can't be the parents of Ante BRJLEVIĆ as he was born only four months after the twins. Possibly aunt and uncle?

I've looked through the Metković birth registers up to 1890 and there is no other mention of the name BRJLEVIĆ which implies that, at least in this area, BRJLEVIĆ is not that common a name.

There's no mention in the Metković birth registers of the Momici births of Ante b.1885 and Filip b.1888. Or at least none that I can find. Possibly Momici came under a different parish, although that seems unlikely as it wouldn't be more than a ten minute donkey ride away from Metković. Family Search has some other Croatian Birth Registers labelled "Vid (Metković)" which I had a quick look through but nothing jumped out.

As I said earlier, may well be a red herring but worth looking at further.

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Came across the following a few days ago. Is it related to this family...

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-39403-2067-93


Regards
Beg

[Janette]

There is this burial in Waikumete cemetery in Auckland

BRLJEVICH, IVAN STEPE
Plot :                                  ROMAN CATHOLIC BERM A Row 8, Plot 36
Interment Type:              Burial
Title:                                  MR
Surname :                        BRLJEVICH
Given Names:                 IVAN STEPE
Age :                                  73
Gender :                            Male
Occupation:                     LABOURER
Date Of Death :                17-Oct-1958
Date Of Burial :                21-Oct-1958   
Funeral Director :           C LITTLE & SONS LIMITED
Head Stone Details :      Y


Cheers Janette

[Beg Clonrode...]

There is this burial in Waikumete cemetery in Auckland

BRLJEVICH, IVAN STEPE

Hello Janette...

My thinking was that that was the Ivan mentioned in the letter at the end of my previous post. Too much to hope that he was also the twin Ivan born in Metkovic :-)

There's a few BRLJEVICH probates at Auckland which the original poster may want to have looked-up, in particular this one...

BRLJEVICH Ante - Kaitaia - Retired
http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=954351

Regards
Beg

[Janette]

I wondered that,Beg,the age is right for him

Cheers Janette

[kiwihalfpint]

Hi,

Throwing this into the pit, from Naturalisation Records.

Name: Ante Brljevich
Birth Date: 9 Apr 1885
Age:    39
Birth Place: Momic, Dalmatia
Former Nationality:    Yugoslavian
Occupation:    Labourer
Residence City:    Waiharara
Naturalisation Date:    7 Feb 1925

Name: Ivan Brljevich
Birth Date: abt 1886
Age:    26 Yrs
Birth Place: Vrgorac, Dalmatia
Former Nationality:    Austrian
Occupation:    Labourer
Residence City:    Maungaturoto
Naturalisation Date:    20 Apr 1912

Cheers
KHP

[Janette]

I popped into Waikumete this afternoon and Ivan Stepe has the name Jack on his headstone,I have emailed the funeral directors to see if they can help any further

Cheers Janette

[Beg Clonrode...]

Hello Monke...

Here's a West Australian newspaper report mentioning a Mat BRLJEVICH. He has a nephew Anti BRLJEVICH.

Perhaps Mat = Mate and Anti = Ante

The West Australian (Perth, WA)
Wednesday 28 July 1937
Page 15

ASSAULT CHARGE FAILS

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article41415260

May be Mate or maybe not as WA BMD mentions the 1968 death of a Matija BRLJEVICH. Is Matija a male or female name.

Either way he/she is aged 76 at death so born c.1892 which is ten years too late to be the Mate BRLJEVICH b.1883 mentioned by Lucy in Reply #13

http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=FB00024085

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Ryerson has a 2002 death for a Mato BRLJACIC born c.1922 Maybe another nephew. Or maybe not as the surname is spelt differently.

BRLJACIC, Mato - d. 14 Jun 2004 aged 82 at QEH - Death notice: Adelaide Advertiser 16 Jun 2004

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Australia Archives holds a dozen or so BRLJEVICH files including the Matija and possibly the Ante mentioned above.

Well worth asking for further advice on the Australia board as to how to view the contents of the files.

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx

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What information do you actually have? In your threads for both Filip and Mate all you seem to have done is give a name and then assume that everything will be revealed.

I'm guessing you're maybe related to the BRLJEVICH family so it would be helpful if you could tell us what you know about them.

And I'm curious as to why you said that Mate is important. Personally I'm with Harry Bosch who says that everyone is important or no-one is important :-)

Regards
Beg

[Lucy2]

Monke's previous threads :

New Zealand board :   Topic : Mate BRLJEVICH   (July 2013)

Europe board :   Topic :   Russian Marriage around 1920 (mentions Mate BRLJEVICH)

 

[monke]

Wohoo lots of replies but you got on wrong track.

Mate Brljevich was born in Momići, village near Metkovic but it was under different parish. So Ivan and Jela Brljevich are not related to him.

Mate came back to Europe and his old country in 1920s i believe. 1932. he was definetly in Europe, not Australia. I'm trying to find out as much as possible about his life in New Zealand...