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John Tice Kelso War Memorial
« on: Saturday 21 September 13 01:20 BST (UK) »
There are three Tice's on Kelso War Memorial,

George William and John.

George was Royal Scots, William was KOSB, but there is no John on the SNWM website.

CWGC & SDGW has a John Arthur Tice, but i can find  no connection to Kelso or Roxburghshire for him.

John Tice ,age 4 and a William age 2, appears on the 1891 census.

I can find no reference to John Tice, at least online, to any military service.

All help greatly appreciated

   

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Re: John Tice Kelso War Memorial
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 21 September 13 02:45 BST (UK) »
Sorted, found his death on Scotlands People

John Tice, 38961, RAMC.

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Re: John Tice Kelso War Memorial
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 21 September 13 08:20 BST (UK) »
So why was he not listed by CWGC etc? I see he died in 1919. That date still qualifies him for CWGC status, so perhaps he had been discharged because of a long term illness from which he died but the locals had more relaxed criteria for inclusion on the war memorial. But if he has been overlooked by CWGC- it happened occasionally - then you could approach the CWGC about recording him.

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Re: John Tice Kelso War Memorial
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 21 September 13 08:36 BST (UK) »
He died of carcenoma of the stomach, which I suppose is natural causes, at Bangour Hospital near Edinburgh

He has no medal index card, that I can find on Ancestry, so it doesn't look like he served overseas.

The body may have been returned to the family for private burial.

Anyone know of a burial register for Kelso.


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Re: John Tice Kelso War Memorial
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 22 September 13 12:13 BST (UK) »
Medal index card found and he did serve overseas Date of Entry therein 8.7.1915


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Re: John Tice Kelso War Memorial
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 22 September 13 12:37 BST (UK) »
I suppose it just depends if he was still enlisted when he died to be included on CWGC.
If he was you could contact them and say you have an uncommemorated soldier....or you could contact the "in from the cold project" which do this sort of thing.

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Re: John Tice Kelso War Memorial
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 22 September 13 13:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks Ady

"In From The Cold" missing casualty application made.

Will let you know how I get on

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Re: John Tice Kelso War Memorial
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 22 September 13 13:18 BST (UK) »
Ruth Holmes of Kelso library has done a full list of the named. Extract below.

Pte George Tice KOSB 26.09.1917 TYNE COT MEMORIAL
Pte John Tice South Staffordshire 26.10.1917 HOOGE CRATER CEMETERY
Pte William Tice KOSB 20.09.1918 SUNKEN ROAD CEMETERY, BOISLEUX-ST. MARC


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Re: John Tice Kelso War Memorial
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 22 September 13 14:24 BST (UK) »
I think this is an error

The CWGC entry is for a John Arthur Tice

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/459481/TICE,%20JOHN%20ARTHUR

As far as I can see this man, his family or ancestors never went anywhere near Scotland let alone 

Kelso.

The real John Tice was i believe William Tice's brother, scotlandspeople.gov records bear this out