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Re: Marriage John Folan to Barbara Audley 1887 or 1890
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 02 July 14 21:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Sinann & Helen27,

Sinann, I agree with you comment but it does show what potential we can all have.

Helen 27,
Not a problem, I just hope you put a copy in the right spot and you got the reply you wanted

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Brian
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Re: Marriage John Folan to Barbara Audley 1887 or 1890
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 03 July 14 21:25 BST (UK) »
Well I think I have got a partial answer to my original question!
Please see the attached image of the marriage certificate. It contains two dates 1st October 1887 in the normal place and on the extreme right hand side it has the comment 'Registered by me this 15th day of February 1890'. Both these dates corresponds with the two marriage references I gave in my original post. My conclusion is that the attached marriage was registered twice once in 1887 and again in 1890.
This is something I have never seen before, most of my research has been done in England. Can anybody advise whether it is common for marriages to be registered twice in Ireland or have I found one with my first attempt!!
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Brian
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Re: Marriage John Folan to Barbara Audley 1887 or 1890
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 03 July 14 21:30 BST (UK) »
Doubt it was registered twice but got listed in the index twice, as when a widow marries she gets listed twice but there is only one cert.

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Re: Marriage John Folan to Barbara Audley 1887 or 1890
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 03 July 14 22:19 BST (UK) »
Hi Sinann,
I do not see how the marriage could have only been indexed twice as the vol and page numbers in the index are different as follows:
Q3 (Oct to Dec) 1887 vol 2 page 90 John Folan & Bab Audley
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Q1 (Jan to Mar) 1890 vol 4 page 266 John Folan & Bab Audley
The image I attached has the page number 266 in the top left hand corner i.e it corresponds to the 1890 index entry.
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Brian
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Re: Marriage John Folan to Barbara Audley 1887 or 1890
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 03 July 14 22:29 BST (UK) »
Very odd.
You ordered the first one yes?
You were sent the second
Is the first damaged I wonder

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Re: Marriage John Folan to Barbara Audley 1887 or 1890
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 03 July 14 22:53 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately there are a few of this name and we don't know his wife to check but still I wonder did something happen to page 90
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FY4M-DJX
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FYH7-QJW

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Re: Marriage John Folan to Barbara Audley 1887 or 1890
« Reply #15 on: Friday 04 July 14 22:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Sinann,
In answer to your message of 22:29 hrs yesterday.

I emailed both entries to a person in Ireland, she visited the General Register Office in Dublin and looked at the indexes there. She could not find the 1887 entry in the indexes and therefore looked at the 1890 indexes, found the entry and so purchased the document.

The only conclusion I can now make is that the marriage took place in 1887 and for some reason the information did not reach the GRO until 1890. It was therefore registered in 1890 and included in the 1890 indexes. I also conclude that the information was inserted retrospectively into the 1887 registers. However as the 1887 indexes had already been produced the marriage was not included in the 1887 indexes that the person I gave the information to searched but was included in an addendum to the 1887 indexes which is included in the family search website.

What do you think of the above logic?
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Brian
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Re: Marriage John Folan to Barbara Audley 1887 or 1890
« Reply #16 on: Friday 04 July 14 23:20 BST (UK) »
Ah that makes sense, two entries in the index but only one Cert.
There was a case of a bundle of marriage whatits, the bit the priest sends to the registration office, found down the back of a press in the sacristy years after the marriages, so these things do happen.