Robert thompson born Bilston abt 1846

[tonyrodaway]

help needed please with Robert THOMPSON 1846 and wife ELIZABETH also born Bilston,Staffordshire

the family 1911, in Liverpool
Elizabeth Thompson   64  1847  Bilston, Yorkshire
John Thompson     23   1888  Wednesbury, Yorkshire  Dock Labourer
Robert Thompson   21   1890   Wednesbury, Yorkshire Dock Labourer
Nathan Thompson   18   1893  Wednesbury, Yorkshire Tin Smith
Florence Thompson   20   1891         Liverpool, Lancashire,  married to  JOHN
Catherine Thompson     2 MONTH     LIVERPOOL Granddaughter


this clearly should be Staffordshire,

1891  5 fletchers court ?
Robert Thompson   45  Bilston, Staffordshire
Elizabeth Thompson   44  Bilston, Staffordshire
John Thompson             4  Wednesbury
Robb Thompson        2  Wednesbury

Listed having 12 children with 6 living on the 1911 unable to find any more on census
so any help on this family greatly appreciated  ,
I have Nathaniels  family details up to  date,   cheers Tony 

[judi2632]

1901 Very odd , but this looks like them with the wrong surname


Elizabeth Beech   43 head married , General ? Own account  born  Bilston Staffordshire England
John Beech   14 son Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England
Robert Beech   12 son Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England
Mathew  could be  NATHAN on the original ( mistranscribed ?) Beech aged 10 son Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England.

Piece: 3423 Folio 96 Page 46

living in Liverpool , islington

[tonyrodaway]

cheers Judi, certainty looks like them, very odd  all the error's with a family ,
 Nathaniel (Nathan )was in fact born 31 May 1891      more searching,

[suzard]

1901 Very odd , but this looks like them with the wrong surname



Mathew  could be  NATHAN on the original ( mistranscribed ?) Beech aged 10 son Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England.

Piece: 3423 Folio 96 Page 46

living in Liverpool , islington

On image "Matthew" is very clearly entered as "Matthew"
the surname is not clearly Beech
address is Hunter or Bunter St???

Suz

[tonyrodaway]

Suzard, the family are living at 10/7 Cr Hunter Grove Hunter St  on the 1911 census ??

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Something doesn't quite add up, unless the number of years married on 1911 was up to the point Robert died, rather than time back from 1911. The latter option would suggest John was the oldest of 12, and Elizabeth had this first child at age 40!

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
I agree something is wrong here.
I've checked the GRO birth indexes for Robert ,John and Nathaniel and they are all registered in West Bromwich as Thompson .
Robert June 1889 6b 891
John Mar 1888 6b 816
Nathaniel June 1891 6b 953.
Nathaniel is born 31.5.1891 and marries a Catherine Donahue 20.11.1911 at Holy Cross Liverpool ,dies 17.4.1931 according to an online family tree on Ancestry but no parents or siblings mentioned.
There seems to be no marriage that fits easily for the couple ,so could Beech be her maiden name and the couple be unmarried?
John may not be the eldest child as you say the 1911 census gives 12 children 6 dead.
Have you got the birth certificates which should give her maiden name?
Robert Thompson I definitely don't think started life as Thompson.He seems to have died in West Bromwich age 49 June 1896 6b 490 .Could the death certificate explain more,I doubt it but you never know.
Ciderdrinker

[ciderdrinker]

Hi me again
Had a quick look at Familysearch.
Have you seen Robert Thompson and Elizabeth Myatt baptising children at the catholic church of St Peter and Pauls Wolverhampton?
Robertus Thomas 22.4.1875
Aloysims Moutril1 12.7.1878
Theresa 23.11.1879
Sebastian Julius 6.7.1881
This would fit with Nathaniel's catholic marriage and Theresa is rebaptised at Wednesbury 29.4.1883.
I know it's a lot earlier but I thought worth a mention.
Ciderdrinker
Sorry not them they are on the 1891 census,should have checked

[Mabel Bagshawe]

I had picked up Elizabeth Myatt myself - there's a marriage with an Elizabeth and a Robert Thompson in Q2 1874, Wolverhampton (Vol 6b p819). The only candidate in Bilston is b 1856 - so the wrong age  for the census (except in 1901) but a better age to be having 12 children!