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Cassidy family to Manchester 1850-1860
« on: Thursday 09 December 10 19:56 GMT (UK) »
My ggrandmother and her family were Cassidys and came to Manchester abt 1859-1862.
From UK census data one of them is recorded as born in Cavan Co. , so I assume they all came from there. The others are just listed as place of birth –Ireland.
 
They were James Cassidy (b abt.1820), his wife Rose Ann (b abt. 1817) and children Margaret Ann (b abt 1861), Edward (abt 1863), John (abt 1859) and William (abt 1857). There may have been a Joseph too.

Any clues about their roots and maiden name of Rose Ann would be appreciated. With such a common surname I don’t know where to start.

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Britten, Moore, James, Weeks, Fox, Selway, Treasure,
Sturgis, Snelgrove, Millard, Lippiatt, Chivers, Kay, Cassidy, Cooke, Flack, Bebbington, Shetler

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Re: Cassidy family to Manchester 1850-1860
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 09 December 10 19:59 GMT (UK) »
Did they have any children in Lancashire?
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Re: Cassidy family to Manchester 1850-1860
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 09 December 10 20:07 GMT (UK) »
The Cassidy births all appear to be before the start of full Civil registration in 1864 which makes your search difficult unless you know the parish or townland the family lived, and you also need to know their religion.

If James and Rose Ann were non-Catholic and their marriage was in Ireland sometime from 1845 then they could be included in civil records.

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Re: Cassidy family to Manchester 1850-1860
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 09 December 10 20:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi CaroleW.

I think James and Rose Ann had a son John born in Manchester in 1859. My mother recalls Margaret having a brother John. There are two possibilities in the 1861 census, both in Manchester St George.   It did occur to me that the whole family may not have left Ireland at the same time.

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Counties = Somerset, Wilts, Lancs, Essex

Britten, Moore, James, Weeks, Fox, Selway, Treasure,
Sturgis, Snelgrove, Millard, Lippiatt, Chivers, Kay, Cassidy, Cooke, Flack, Bebbington, Shetler


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Re: Cassidy family to Manchester 1850-1860
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 09 December 10 20:27 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the useful advice Shane.

I shall be visiting my mother at the weekend.  She is in her 90's and hopefully can enlighten me with a few more bits of data to help this quest. She would have spent some time with Margaret.

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Counties = Somerset, Wilts, Lancs, Essex

Britten, Moore, James, Weeks, Fox, Selway, Treasure,
Sturgis, Snelgrove, Millard, Lippiatt, Chivers, Kay, Cassidy, Cooke, Flack, Bebbington, Shetler

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Re: Cassidy family to Manchester 1850-1860
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 09 December 10 20:35 GMT (UK) »
If any of the children were born in England it's worth trying to locate birth certs for them, as this would give you a maiden surname for Rose Ann. This could help verify, or rule out, any earlier parish records you may locate for the family in Ireland.


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Re: Cassidy family to Manchester 1850-1860
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 December 10 20:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi CaroleW.

I think James and Rose Ann had a son John born in Manchester in 1859. My mother recalls Margaret having a brother John. There are two possibilities in the 1861 census, both in Manchester St George.   I did occur to me that the whole family may not have left Ireland at the same time.

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Hello Tracker2,
Is this your family in
1871 RG10; Piece: 4054; Folio: 10; Page: 14
12 Vauxhall Street Manchester

James Cassidy head 52 yrs labourer
Rose Ann Cassidy wife 44 yrs
William Cassidy son 18 ys oil and grease maker
John Cassidy son 17 ys cooper
Alicia Cassidy daur  15 yssilk weaver
James Cassidy son 13 yrs maker up assistant
Joseph Cassidy son 10 yrs
Margaret Cassidy daur 9 yrs
Edward Cassidy son 7 yrs
Margaret McGinniss visitor single 35 ys

all born Ireland which looks then as though they arrived after 1863 ish (Edward's birth).

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Re: Cassidy family to Manchester 1850-1860
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 09 December 10 21:41 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Heywood. 

That is the family for sure.  I had single name extracts for some of them in the 1871 census but now you show the whole family it all slots into place.  A bonus is that I see another member, Alicia.

My grandmother was a daughter of Margaret and she was also called Alicia.  I must have missed this detail on the first pass a few years ago.

So the original problem of the Irish roots still remains. I will press a few buttons with my mother now all this data is available.

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Counties = Somerset, Wilts, Lancs, Essex

Britten, Moore, James, Weeks, Fox, Selway, Treasure,
Sturgis, Snelgrove, Millard, Lippiatt, Chivers, Kay, Cassidy, Cooke, Flack, Bebbington, Shetler

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Re: Cassidy family to Manchester 1850-1860
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 09 December 10 22:16 GMT (UK) »
Hello again,
Family Search pilot site http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html# has:

Edward Cassidy b February 29 1864 Kilnaleck, Cavan

parents James Cassidy and Rosanna McCuley

Kilnaleck is Crosserlough Parish, Cavan and Griffiths valuation  is here:
 http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php

I would imagine that Rosanna's name is McCauley/McCauly- there are some in the parish but not Kilnaleck in Griffiths.

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