Patrick Rossiter and Mary Anne Byrne nee Noctor Naughter

[genseacher]

Hi
I am research the following
Patrick Rossiter Labourer, married Mary Anne Byrne (widow) nee Noctor/ Naughter
on 4th Sept 1925 in Church of Castletown, District of Coolgreany, Gorey, Co Wexford

Patrick Rossiter's father is listed as Thomas Rossiter (deceased) Labourer.
On Patrick Rossiters marriage cert at time of marriage addresses listed as follows
Cloneranny, Castletown
Castletown, Inch, Co wexford

not sure whether one of them could have been father address.

Mary Anne's father is John Naughter labourer
address are
Kilmichael Castletown
Inch Co Wexford

Witnesses James Higgins and Mary Higgins

Patrick and Mary Anne had 3 daughters not sure whether there were children from this marriage.

I know nothing more of Patrick Rossiter

Hoping to find out more about Patrick Rossiter

Regards
Genseacher

[Katharine75]

Hi. Have you tried the 1901 and 1911 Irish census?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

I had a look for Patrick Rossiter's living in a household with an older Thomas Rossiter in Wexford in 1911, and presuming your Thomas was a child at that stage, I could see two possibilities:

One is age 3 living in Grogan's Rd, Wexford, Co.Wexford
the other is age 10 living in Cull, Killag, Co.Wexford

Have a look, perhaps one is the right family.

Can't seem to find a possible Naughter/Noctor family. Presume Mary Anne would have been at least 5-10 years old when the census was taken.

Hope you can find them, Katharine.

[genseacher]

Hi Katharine
Thanks for your reply. Its Patrick Rossiter that I am interested in.

I had a look for Patrick Rossiter's living in a household with an older Thomas Rossiter in Wexford in 1911, and presuming your Thomas was a child at that stage

Thomas Rossiter was Patrick's father.

I could see two possibilities:
One is age 3 living in Grogan's Rd, Wexford, Co.Wexford
the other is age 10 living in Cull, Killag, Co.Wexford

When Patrick married Mary Anne in 1925 both were of full age (over 21 yrs of age).
His wife Mary Anne was born in 1894 she was 31 years of age when she married Patrick.

I doubt very much the census in Grogan's Rd would be Patrick Rossiter. There are 26 matches for Patrick Rossiter in the 1911 census and 22 matches in 1901. Some of them can be ruled out. It is possible that Patrick could have been younger than his wife.  There are two addresses listed for Patrick Rossiter at time of marriage Cloneranny and Castletown Inch, Co Wexford.
On Patrick's marriage cert his father Thomas Rossiter is listed as deceased.

Patrick and Mary Anne had 4 daughters Ann, Teresa, Caroline and Christina.

Can't seem to find a possible Naughter/Noctor family. Presume Mary Anne would have been at least 5-10 years old when the census was taken.

In relation to Patrick's wife,  Mary Anne yes I have her in 1901 and 1911 census Mary Anne was from Tarahill, Gorey

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Courtown/Tarahill/1794199/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wexford/Gorey_Rural/Knockmullen/684959/

Regards
Genseacher

[Katharine75]

I re-read my post, and meant to say 'presuming Patrick was a child' rather than Thomas. I did think you post was indicating that you wanted to find the family of Patrick.

Have you looked for the birth registrations for the three girls? Do you have details of Mary Anne's first marriage?

Katharine.

[genseacher]

Hi Katharine

I do have details of Mary Anne's first marriage quite a lot
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,641444.0.html

As for the 4 daughters I have found them on familysearch but have not applied for birth certs, I do
know who they all married and have a little background to where they eventually move to, but I have to be very careful as some could still be alive. At the moment as I've stated its Patrick Rossiter I am trying to research. As I know who both parents of the 4 daughters are, the only thing I would prob get is addresses which was in Wexford. Like marriage certs,  baptismal certs always give you info as to witnesses which sometimes can be relatives. But alas that is not possible at the moment.
Regards
Genseacher

[Katharine75]

Patrick and Mary Anne had 3 daughters not sure whether there were children from this marriage.

After reading your initial post it seemed you were not sure if the 3 (now 4 ) daughters were actually children of both parents Patrick and Mary Anne. It seemed to me you were suggesting they could have been children from Mary Anne's first marriage.

Good luck with searching for Patrick, hopefully a clue will turn up.

[genseacher]

Hi Katherine
So sorry.  There were two little words left out of that paragraph.

Patrick and Mary Anne had 3 daughters not sure whether there were children from this marriage.

It should have read Patrick and Mary Anne had 3 daughters not sure whether there were any more children from this marriage.

And upon checking with relatives and checking with my file there was one other daughter.
Ann, Teresa, Caroline and Christina.

Many thanks for your replies
Regards
Genseacher

[Katharine75]

No problem. My best suggestion was the census - but you have already looked at that. Someone else may have a better idea. Katharine.

[Eamon62]

Hello , I am a Grandson of Patrick Rossiter and Mary Anne Byrne and myself and my cousin who spotted some web hits on our Grandparents would be happy to help on any research. My mom Theresa moved to England in 1948/49 followed by her sisters Christine and Caroline , Anne stayed in Eire - sadly mom passed away last week which is why we were doing our own bit of research on our ancestry for the Eulogy ......so if you want any help please get in touch. One thing that you appear to have missed in your searches is that as well as the 4 girls Patrick and Mary also had a son , also called Thomas , he died when the girls were all young probably in the 1late 1930's early 1940's .......It would be great to hear from you - thanks