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Re: Colgan of Tonduff & Ardihannon?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 03 November 09 20:01 GMT (UK) »
danadavkins,

there is a Black family tree on Ancestry.
It has James, Sallie and Hugh Black.
Is that yours?
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Re: Colgan of Tonduff & Ardihannon?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 02:57 GMT (UK) »
Sarah Colgan Black from Ardihannon (1830/32-1880) was also known as Sarah McKinley Colgan. McKinley might be her mother's maiden name and with Sarah's daughters being Rachel and Anna, looking for a Rachel or Anna McKinley might be a worthwhile search, possibly resulting in the name of Hugh Colgan's wife and then giving you your 3rd grt grandmother's name. One of my family notes records the marriage as 1820 in Coleraine.  I've yet to find the source for this.

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Re: Colgan of Tonduff & Ardihannon?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 06:35 GMT (UK) »
I've had a quick search but I don't see any likely candidates.
The earliest Rachel McKinley so far was born in 1868. There are some Ann(e)s but none that fit my criteria.
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Re: Colgan of Tonduff & Ardihannon?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 17:29 GMT (UK) »
The other witness for the James Black, Sarah Colgan Coleraine marriage was a Henrietta Ward, a name totally unknown to me. While the other witness, Hugh Colgan, was obviously related, I'm wondering if this lady might have just been an employee at the Coleraine Registrar's office or some kind of local official who just filled in to meet the requirements of a 2nd witness. Was the couple required to provide their own witnesses? Although Ward may be a fairly common Northern Ireland(Scotch?) surname, my recent search for the name Henrietta Ward produced only about 2 hits on the Irish History Foundation site and they were not in County Antrim and seemingly quite a distance from Coleraine. Perhaps such a rare name will be an advantage.


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Re: Colgan of Tonduff & Ardihannon?
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 17:44 GMT (UK) »
Couple would have had to supply there own witnesses as far as I know.

This might help track down Henrietta Ward:
25 June, Portrush (Church of Ireland?), Charles Williams of Coleraine and London married to Georgiana Goold Ward, grand-daughter of Thomas Black of Portrush.
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Re: Colgan of Tonduff & Ardihannon?
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 18:33 GMT (UK) »
That ties the Wards and the Blacks together nicely aghadowey.
Is that from a newpaper and what year please?
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Re: Colgan of Tonduff & Ardihannon?
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 18:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
    The marriage occurred on 25 Jun 1861 in Ballywillan Church of Ireland. The Brides name in my source was Georgina Gould Ward.

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Re: Colgan of Tonduff & Ardihannon?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 19:26 GMT (UK) »
Yes! This does tie the Henrietta Ward witness to the Black family. This excellent information has reminded me that the witnesses usually represented both sides of the family and usually the witness for each is under the name he or she represents. On this 1852 marriage record Henrietta Ward is recorded under James Black's name while Hugh Colgan is recorded under Sarah Colgan's name, adding to the evidence that Ward is connected to the Blacks. This additional information that you have so kindly provided has some very enticing clues for me to follow!! I too would like to know the year of this June 25th Williams/Ward marriage.

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Re: Colgan of Tonduff & Ardihannon?
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 19:27 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, part of early post seems to have gone missing- Coleraine Chronicle, 29 June 1861.

25 June, Portrush (Church of Ireland?), Charles Williams of Coleraine and London married to Georgiana Goold Ward, grand-daughter of Thomas Black of Portrush.
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