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Re: Lookup offer for crimea and indian mutiny
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 29 January 06 00:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kev
I may be asking the impossible,but here goes.
My maternal great great grandfather James Charters 1794-1861.He was an army captain and farmer,living at "Glendona" Gobrana Antrim.The gravestone of my great grandfather,who came to Australia,states that his father was an army captain.His wife may have come from Yorkshire and I am guessing that they may have met in England whilst serving overseas.
Any help greatly appreciated as it is a total mystery.
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Re: Lookup offer for crimea and indian mutiny
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 29 January 06 10:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kev

I wonder if you can be any help with my problem.

I am looking for John James Tamkin.

His obituary claims that he served in the Crimea.  I know that he served in the cavalry in the American civil war and went straight in as a sergeant which indicates previous mounted service.  He does not appear to have been in the Light Brigade and so the Heavy Brigade seems a possibility.

He was married in Q4 1852 in Poplar and again in the US in June 1856 which would seem to indicate that he did not see the end of the Crimean War.  I am thus wondering if he was invalided out.  Any ideas would be welcomed.

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Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley.
Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse, Stevens, Batchelor
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Re: Lookup offer for crimea and indian mutiny
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 29 January 06 14:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lazarus and David, sorry no James Charters or John James Tamkin in the Crimea casualty roll.

Will check the indian mutiny later.

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Re: Lookup offer for crimea and indian mutiny
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 29 January 06 17:36 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Kev.  I am beginning to think that the Crimea story was so that he could join the Confederates as a sergeant.  He was after all a bigamist and so another little lie wouldn't be past him.  He was paid to take someone else's place.

Forty years later he was pastor to three churches in West Virginia but still with two living wives and grown up children in the UK and the US.

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DETAILS OF MY NAMES ARE IN SURNAME INTERESTS, LINK AT FOOT OF PAGE
Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley.
Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse, Stevens, Batchelor
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Re: Lookup offer for crimea and indian mutiny
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 29 January 06 22:49 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Kev.  I am beginning to think that the Crimea story was so that he could join the Confederates as a sergeant.  He was after all a bigamist and so another little lie wouldn't be past him.  He was paid to take someone else's place.

Forty years later he was pastor to three churches in West Virginia but still with two living wives and grown up children in the UK and the US.

David 

Wow! David! You have cool relatives!!!!!  :) :) :)
Do you have the Civil War information too??

Annie  :)
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Re: Lookup offer for crimea and indian mutiny
« Reply #32 on: Monday 30 January 06 09:30 GMT (UK) »
I have the basis of his service in the Confederate Army thank you Annie.  He substituted for John C Dovel in the 7th Virginia Cavalry but in fact served in the newly formed 11th Virginia Cavalry.  I have a list of the campaigns that they took part in but have not yet looked into them.

I gather that a substitute was paid $300, which was a lot of money in those days.

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Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse, Stevens, Batchelor
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Re: Lookup offer for crimea and indian mutiny
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 31 January 06 17:29 GMT (UK) »


Hi David!

Can I ask you a question? ( well 2 or 3 !!)
how did you find out about the substitution?
and where did you find it?

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Re: Lookup offer for crimea and indian mutiny
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 31 January 06 17:44 GMT (UK) »
The fact that the actual substitution took place was on a local history site for either Rockingham County or Shenandoah.  I can't remember which I am afraid and its not in my notes (slapped hand).  By then I already had a history of his wife's family from a US source.

 The figure of $300 I found by reading about the subject in general

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Wilson, Higgs, Buswell, PARCELL, Matthews, TAMKIN, Seckington, Pates, Coupland, Webb, Arthur, MAYNARD, Caves, Norman, Winch, Culverhouse, Drakeley.
Johnson, Routledge, SHIRT, SAICH, Mills, SAUNDERS, EDLIN, Perry, Vickers, Pakeman, Griffiths, Marston, Turner, Child, Sheen, Gray, Woolhouse, Stevens, Batchelor
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Re: Lookup offer for crimea and indian mutiny
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 31 January 06 17:58 GMT (UK) »

David !

I just thought it was interesting! -
there's a few people looking for relatives that fought during the Civil War -
and theres name changes and history changes .... you name it!! - hard to get a handle on them  ::)

Thanks for the idea!!

Annie  :) :)
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