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Re: Bedminster Cemeteries
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 29 August 12 18:46 BST (UK) »
Hi June
if you go onto google maps and google Malago vale trading estate, you'll see the piece of land that was the burial ground by the side of that. It's diamond shaped with a path running diagonally through it. It lies between Cotswold Road and St Johns Lane.

If you then look immediately north over the top of the trading estate on the other side of the railway tracks, you'll see a piece of green land bounded by St Johns Road and Church Lane, that's where St Johns Church and churchyard was until it was demolished.

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Re: Bedminster Cemeteries
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 08 June 14 11:53 BST (UK) »
my name is An dries and i am a Great Grandchild of Fred Matthews Saddler Redcliffe Hill, i note he married a Clutterbuck well known in Bristol, i thought they had 5 sons Reginald Arthur (Dickie my Grandfather) he married Lydian Maud Stokes who's father was a dairyman Langton St Bedminster, left a sizeable inheritance. Harold took over the Saddlery business, married mable 2 children Fred and a daughter, business now Matthews Roofing, Jim he had a son and daughter i think the son was called Jim who built a successful Garage business i think he had a child with tragic illness and he sold everything, daughter from memory very attractive, Jim Snr worked for Sidney Seward main Ford Dealer Portwall Lane, Sid who married May/Mae one of the daughters, Sid & May had 2 sons Alan and Clive who worked with Sid, they fell out, Alan married his cousin Faye my Mother Peggy Eileen's youngest sister, my mothers 1st marriage was to Henry ? Paine/Payne who supplied the cigarette rolling machines for W D Wills he came from Yorkshire, Joan my mothers middle sister married a Lewis who was a wholesale tobacconist Bedminster, became Lewis Meeson chain of Tobacconists and Newsagents, my mother and Joan both Divorced but remarried, i remember meeting Gladys who worked as house cleaner for May, i understood there were 5 brothers all of whom fought in 1st world war and returned home, don't know the names of other 2, my mother was a favourite grandchild of Fred and told many stories including go to the Wills Est for Sunday tea, he was i believe a Alderman of Bristol, there was a parrot in the shop who would call him when a customer came into shop, i have seen the Harness they made for Georges Brewery, gather they also made for Wills, Baldwins and other main Bristol businesses.I have a 2nd cousin Paul who i am in contact with who now lives in France, his father was also Fred and i knew him as an uncle but who his Father was i do not know. Divorce, Adultery, illegitimacy, silver paper fraud and Black Market quite common in the past. Fred seems to be a common family name i wouldn't discount the Mines they stretched from one end of Bristol to the other, have never heard whether Fred had any siblings, i.e did Jacob, (Jewish name??) have any other children

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Re: Bedminster Cemeteries
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 02 September 14 05:45 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find the burial place of Brice Webb, buried November 1884 and his wife Elizabeth who appears to have passed away between the 1871-1881 census. They appear to have spent most of their lives in the Civil Parish of Bedminster.

Have had no luck with Arnos Vale, Canford Crematorium that administers Avonview and Greenbank cemeteries.

a lot of the Arnos books were lost dew to the pore maintenance and up keep prior to the compulsory perchuse by Bristol city councle when the then owner let the place fall in to disrepair there for it is posable the information has been lost
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Re: Bedminster Cemeteries
« Reply #21 on: Friday 01 March 19 09:56 GMT (UK) »
There are several Brice Webbs in Bristol in the 16 and 1700's.  They were Quakers.  The Quakers had their own burial pit -  Redcliffe Pit.  I think it is opposite St Mary Redcliffe, now all grassed over of course.  The Internet has photos.
DEVON: Davey,Simmons,Pow,Vile,Judd
SOMERSET: Tyte, Millard
BRISTOL: Withers, Taylor, Tanswell, Crane, Newick
ALMONDSBURY, Withers, Gastrell
GLOS:  Heiron, Holbrow, Harmer, Shillam
LONDON:  Shaw, Vickers
IRELAND/BRISTOL: Gaugharty (and other versions)
YORKSHIRE:  Scothron/Scothorne


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Re: Bedminster Cemeteries
« Reply #22 on: Friday 01 March 19 19:29 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Mary. We walked past there when we visited Bristol in 1916! I will go to the Internet and search further. Quakers. That may explain why a daughter of the Webb house married into a family that from family lore Plymouth Brethren. She was Emily Day who lived in Mill Lane Bedminster with Elizabeth and a Brice Webb (whose mother was Ann Day) Mysteries all around. My assumption was that he used his Mothers surname to differentiate himself from his father who was also a cabinetmaker. We do hold copies of two letters to his Grandson in New Zealand signed off Your loving Grandfather Brice Webb. However the two girls both put Brice Day as their fathers name on their marriage certificates! Did you find reading material that referred to Quakers?
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Re: Bedminster Cemeteries
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 02 March 19 05:16 GMT (UK) »
2016! It was too early in the morning!

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Re: Bedminster Cemeteries
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 02 March 19 09:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi June
I've been looking at your Webb family as I am currently researching Brice Webbs in Bristol back in the 16 and 1700s and I thought I would see if there is any connection. 
I am a bit confused though about your post as follows -

"That may explain why a daughter of the Webb house married into a family that from family lore Plymouth Brethren. She was Emily Day who lived in Mill Lane Bedminster with Elizabeth and a Brice Webb (whose mother was Ann Day) Mysteries all around. My assumption was that he used his Mothers surname to differentiate himself from his father who was also a cabinetmaker. "

I have checked the censuses but cannot find an Emily Day living with Elizabeth and Brice.  (The Brice Webb I mean here is the one dob 1809 whose parents were Brice Webb and Ann Day)  Their daughter Emily Webb was with them in 1841 and 1851 in Mill Street/Lane. I couldn't find that Brice had changed his name to Day. 

As I said I have been researching your Brice Webb to see if he is connected to mine several generations back. How far back have you gone?  At this stage I have his grandfather and also his Grandmother Sarah Phillips whose two brothers whose baptisms are in the Quaker records.

Regarding Quaker information if you Google Quakers in Bristol you should find several sites of interest. 
Regards
Mary
DEVON: Davey,Simmons,Pow,Vile,Judd
SOMERSET: Tyte, Millard
BRISTOL: Withers, Taylor, Tanswell, Crane, Newick
ALMONDSBURY, Withers, Gastrell
GLOS:  Heiron, Holbrow, Harmer, Shillam
LONDON:  Shaw, Vickers
IRELAND/BRISTOL: Gaugharty (and other versions)
YORKSHIRE:  Scothron/Scothorne

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Re: Bedminster Cemeteries
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 02 March 19 22:33 GMT (UK) »
My research trail is already posted on one of the forums, you may find it if you Google search the parties, however in brief:

- My 2x GGrandmother was Emily Day. Her father is recorded on her Death Certificate as being Bryce Day, and her mother Elizabeth Day.

- She emigrated from England to Nelson,NZ and then travelled on to Lyttelton Canterbury to marry Charles Lucas. Her name Emily Day, aged 22, Spinster married 14 March 1857 at the Temporary Church, Lyttelton, Canterbury NZ. Intentions to marry Register: 7 March 1857 states that she had been there 1 week, aged 22.

The shipping documents record:  C Lucas 20 pounds for E.Lucas and E.Day on the vessel Masterman.  Vessel was John Masterman that arrived in Nelson on February 8th 1857.
Nelson Immigration: Register of Applications 1855-1862-1872 records No 309, Day, Emily (adult) Address, Mill Lane, Bedminster, Bristol. Sureties C.Lucas Senr & C. Lucas Jnr (Uncle and nephew)

-This address gave me a lead to search the Census records for Mill Lane, Bedminster. 1841 had a Elizabeth and Brice Webb and children Emily and Eliosa. 1851 had Emily and Eliza. Hmm

- Obtained the Marriage record for Eliza - father stated as Brice Day. Married to Edward Thomas, Cordwainer, Widower.

-1871 Census record for Brice Webb and Elizabeth also includes Edward W Thomas Grandson. Brice Webb 1809's Death Certificate has informant Ada Thomas, Granddaughter.. both the names of two of Eliza's children.

2 letters letter held by a 3rd cousin from Brice Webb to his Grandson Alfred, son of Emily Day (Lucas), are very devout. Signed off your affectionate G Father, Brice Webb.

I have other documents relating to Brice Webb's parents and have made a mission of having as many of my relatives DNA tested with Ancestry as I can in the hope that an identifiable Webb/Day or Thomas match may come up.

I have sent you a personal message with my email address and I am happy to provide documentation of the research.

It would be nice to have help in solving this mystery. Are you a blood descendant of the Webb family?

Kind regards, June

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Re: Bedminster Cemeteries
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 03 March 19 00:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi June 
That is certainly a strange situation with Emily Day/Webb. Maybe she was 'eloping' so gave a false name!!  Sometimes we have mysteries in our family (I have one) that are never resolved unfortunately and it is so frustrating.

 I had a Brice Webb dob 1716 of Bristol as my 3rd cousin.  Recently I also connected the Webb family of Alderley/Cromhall Glos. to another branch of my family.   In reviewing my Bristol lot I realised I had made an error because I had wrongly given the father of Brice Webb of Bristol as Brice Webb of Cromhall which was incorrect, so it was back to the drawing board!

At the moment I am trying to sort all this out and I will then email you.  Thanks for the address.  It will be interesting to see if we are connected.  I am just so surprised there are so many Brice Webbs down through several generations.


Regards
Mary
DEVON: Davey,Simmons,Pow,Vile,Judd
SOMERSET: Tyte, Millard
BRISTOL: Withers, Taylor, Tanswell, Crane, Newick
ALMONDSBURY, Withers, Gastrell
GLOS:  Heiron, Holbrow, Harmer, Shillam
LONDON:  Shaw, Vickers
IRELAND/BRISTOL: Gaugharty (and other versions)
YORKSHIRE:  Scothron/Scothorne