Author Topic: Dalziel/Rawkin Mossbank Ayrshire  (Read 1894 times)

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Dalziel/Rawkin Mossbank Ayrshire
« on: Sunday 29 December 13 23:30 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to join some dots on my family tree. I have ancestors James Dalziel born 1824 in Mossbank married to Helen Rawkin born 1828 in Mossbank. They had a daughter Jane bprn 21st Sept 1850 also in Mossbank. I am trying to fnd out more information such as marriage date, parents, other children etc. Any help would be greatly appreciated

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Re: Dalziel/Rawkin Mossbank Ayrshire
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 29 December 13 23:37 GMT (UK) »
If James and Helen died during or after 1855 - their death certs will show parents names and mothers maiden name

Scotlands People is the website to use to search for their marriage and deaths but as it was pre-1855 it is unlikely it will give much detail.  You need to select Old Parish Registers (OPR's) for the marriage and Statutory deaths for post 1855 deaths

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Re: Dalziel/Rawkin Mossbank Ayrshire
« Reply #2 on: Monday 30 December 13 04:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi diy

Contributed entry on IGI:
James DALZIEL
Helen RAWKIN
Married: 22 Jun 1838 Kilwinning

Where do the 1824 & 1828 birth years for James and Helen come from? And their place of Birth, Mossbank? Have you got them on any Census?

I see a Jane DALZIEL of the right age with parents o right names but  'wrong' ages and place of birth:

http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
1851: Viaduct Row, Kilwinning - age 11 mths, b Kilwinning
Father James b abt 1809, Cambusneathan, Lanarkshire and mother Helen b abt 1818 Kilwinning

1861:
Sunnyside,  Kilmaurs - age 10, b Kilwinning
Father James b abt 1809 amd mother Helen b abt 1818 - in Kilwinning.

1871: Sunnyside Kilmaurs: Helen b abt 1818 Kilwinning is the Head, possibly a widow and the only child with her is dau: Helen DALZIEL age 7, b Kilmaurs.
The child appears to me to be the same as on an indexed IGI record:
     Helen DALZIEL - b 10 May 1863. Kilmaurs - parents James DALZIEL and Helen RANKIN

http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
1841: This DALZIEL family are at  :
High Row Fergushill, Kilwinning - James 30, Helen 20  (ages rounded) and their two sons age  3 and 1. James is stated as  not born in Ayrshire.

There are quite a number of other children in this family ....but is it your family? :-\  RANKIN  would be much more likely than RAWKIN, in my mind -  as  a Scots name.

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Re: Dalziel/Rawkin Mossbank Ayrshire
« Reply #3 on: Monday 30 December 13 18:42 GMT (UK) »
The marriage was for James Dalzel & Helen Rankin, 22 June 1838, Kilwinning.

Also a death for Helen Dalziel, other surnames, Rankin, 1885, age 66, Kilmaurs.


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Re: Dalziel/Rawkin Mossbank Ayrshire
« Reply #4 on: Monday 30 December 13 18:47 GMT (UK) »
So it looks like it should be Helen Rankin not Rawkin...Need to look into the Birth years

Thanks

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Re: Dalziel/Rawkin Mossbank Ayrshire
« Reply #5 on: Monday 30 December 13 19:06 GMT (UK) »
Also a death for James Dalziel, b. abt 1809, 1864, Kilmaurs.