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Re: Question re Shipping Manifest...........
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 12 August 14 14:05 BST (UK) »
Thank you KHP & Janette for your suggestions. I will report back after making some 'phone calls.......

Minniehaha.

HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Question re Shipping Manifest...........
« Reply #10 on: Friday 15 August 14 21:56 BST (UK) »
Where I'm at with this...........

Contacted the Family Research Centre-   Unable to answer the question.

Contacted the 'go to' man at Auckland
Library Family History-                            Ditto.

Contacted Auckland Archives-                 Unable to access Family Search website through their
                                                           browser. Not able to answer the question.

I am now awaiting a response from Wellington Archives, this having been suggested by the Auckland branch.

Minniehaha.
                       
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Question re Shipping Manifest...........
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 09 September 14 02:45 BST (UK) »
Reply received from Archives @ Wellington...........

Thank you for your email of the 14th of August regarding the remarks column of the manifest of the 'Apelles'

I have had a look at this record and have also got my colleagues opinion and we cannot say for certain what this entry relates to.

There are a few options:

·         the berth no

·         the cost incurred in immigrating

· 
      or an additional file which relates

I'm sorry we couldn't have been of more assistance.

I would think the last option is the most likely. This being the case, where to now, if anywhere? Does anyone have any ideas?


Minniehaha.

P.S. Oops! I have overlooked Spades suggestion of contacting the Auckland Museum. Next on the list............

HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Question re Shipping Manifest...........
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 10 September 14 00:09 BST (UK) »
Contacted Auckland Museum. A very brief response: "unable to help"................

Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.


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Re: Question re Shipping Manifest...........
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 10 September 14 02:23 BST (UK) »
Quote from: minniehaha
In the remarks column beside his entry on the ship's manifest, is written 'Auckland 1245  1'
Can anyone tell me what these numbers relate to please.


Hi Minnie...

In answer to your original question, 1245 is what's called a Passage Order number. It's the link between the Passenger Lists and the Nomination Registers.

Archives in Wellington hold fourteen Nomination Registers. I don't know if there are others stored elsewhere but I suspect not.

Here's the preamble from....

 An Introduction to Passage Orders for Nominated Immigrants
by J.W. Dempsey 7 April 1982


Nominated Passengers - List of Passage Orders

This series is comprised of volumes (a.k.a registers) containing additional information on nominated immigrants to New Zealand.

This information can include the name and address of nominators or sponsors, cost of passage, future employment, etc.

The value of the information found depends on the diligence of the clerk filling in the register.
 
In order to use the registers you should have a specific passage order number, found in the remarks column in the passenger list.


To read the rest of the article go to the following link and then click "MORE INFORMATION & INDEX"

NOMINATED IMMIGRANTS - LIST OF PASSAGE ORDERS [RECORD GROUP]   (8230)
http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewEntity.do?code=8230

The thirteen registers (IM 10/1-13) to which he refers, plus one from Auckland, are the following...

http://archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewRelatedEntities.do?code=8230&relatedEntity=Item

It seems a bit bizarre that so few registers have survived. It's not as if they would have ever left the office.

Regards
Beg

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Re: Question re Shipping Manifest...........
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 10 September 14 02:57 BST (UK) »
That is brilliant! Thank you so much Beg. I assume I am correct in that there is only one Auckland register and that is for 1873? Never mind, at least I now know what the numbers represent.

In view of the response received from Archives, (see above) I have e-mailed your information to them in Wellington and await their comments.

Minniehaha.
HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.