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Re: John Campbell and Temperance Perkins
« Reply #9 on: Friday 07 May 10 23:13 BST (UK) »
Hi There,

I'm a descendant of Robert Perkins Campbell and  (son of John & Temperance Campbell) and Rosey Gonzalles.   

There is much information available about Temperance Perkins Stevens but very little about John (known in Australia as "Tinker" as a way of distinguishing him from the many migrants of the same name.  My family's records show:

John (Tinker) Campbell

b. 1808    Westbrook across the bay from Portland (Maine) USA, the son of a Scottish emigrant named John Campbell
      
1821    migrated to Halifax in Nova Scotia, Canada.  (As he would have only been around 13 years of age it is likely that the family migrated to Nova Scotia)

NB  As there was a branch of the Perkins family in Liverpool, NS, it is likely that John met Temperance through visiting her second cousins living there.

m. 1833    Married TEMPERANCE PERKINS STEVENS At Cape Elizabeth near Westbrook, Maine, USA, on Oct 29.  She was the daughter of Thomas & Elizabeth Stevens.  Thomas Stevens' parents were Jushia Stevens, B. Townsend, Maine, in 1743, died Kingsborough, Maine in 1817.  Mother was Mary Lawrence of Groton, Maine, daughter of Thomas Lawrence b. 1720 d. 1758 at Lake George in French/Indian war & Sarah Houghton. Elizabeth Stevens was b. Mar 8 1772 the daughter of John & Phoebe Perkins.

1833 John Campbelll purchased two brigs the Micmac and the Elizabeth Palmer

1834   John & Temperance's first son John born May 1 in USA.

1834  The Micmac arrives in Sydney from Liverpool (NS) on Sept 15.

John Tinker Campbell was a well known character whose exploits post 1834 have been well recorded.  He wrote his memoirs later in life.
 :) Coonungi.


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Re: John Campbell and Temperance Perkins
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 08 May 10 18:19 BST (UK) »

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Re: John Campbell and Temperance Perkins
« Reply #11 on: Monday 10 May 10 07:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Steve, Thanks for the link. Most of the items offer superficial or erroneous treatment of the facts in the interests of controversy.   Aside from that, can you tell me more about the thumbnail image "Capt. Bob" that you provided? :)

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Re: John Campbell and Temperance Perkins
« Reply #12 on: Friday 21 May 10 03:36 BST (UK) »
For people researching John and Temperance Perkins Campbell, the following was found at the Maine Historical Society in Portland.

Marriage Intention - obtained on 13 July 1833 - John Campbell of Halifax and Temperence Stephens Marriage on 14 August 1833 - John Campbell of Nova Scotia and Temperence Stephens.
Sources found in Vital Statistics Brooksville Main 18217 - 1837

Therefore the 29 October 1833 date used by some as the marriage date is incorrect.  The marriage certificate and marriage intention have recorded that John Campbell is from Halifax in one, and Nova Scotia in the other.

There are no records of John 'Tinker' Campbell being born in
* Cape Elizabeth (checked at the South Portland County Clerks Office - no records)
* Westbrook (Westbrook Historical Society - no mention of any Campbell family in the area until the 1900s.)

Researchers should note this in their records and concentrate on other potential places of birth. 

As for records relating to Nova Scotia (ie emmigrating, the purchase of two brigs, Mic Mac and Elizabeth Palmer, birth of John Edwin Campbell), then I have no further information on these.  I daresay Coonungi may have records to confirm these.


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Re: John Campbell and Temperance Perkins
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 23 May 10 07:06 BST (UK) »
The evidence collected by BT shows that the information sourced from  Perkins, Thomas Alan (1947) Jacob Perkins of Wells and his Descendants, Haverhill, Mass, p. 20 is unreliable.  This may be the case also with the other information - i.e., the dates for JTC's birth, migration to Nova Scotia, the purchase of the brigs, and his arrival in Australia that I have provided, as it all came from the same informant ...

So we are back to square one. 


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Re: John Campbell and Temperance Perkins
« Reply #14 on: Monday 24 May 10 00:19 BST (UK) »
mygirlbill

After reading the emails that you have sent me on here I will contact you directly from here in relation to the family tree and we can continue our conversations from there.

Talk to you soon KM!

BT

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Re: John Campbell and Temperance Perkins
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 09 June 10 02:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Ben! Could you please contact me on my private addy as I now finally have received heaps of new information regarding the Campbells. (I've lost your email addy) Talk to you soon. Regards mygirlbill

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Re: John Campbell and Temperance Perkins
« Reply #16 on: Friday 24 January 14 12:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi mygirlbill

Just getting into John "Tinker" Campbell.  This is for the reason that he apparently convinced my great-great-grandfather, Increase Robinson Bell, and one George Balser, to accompany him on a voyage to Sydney, Australia.  Campbell is listed as a merchant and together with his wife and boy child they had a cabin on the Brig "Mary" from Rio de Janeiro via Capetown and Hobart.  Increase and George were in steerage and there were 35 boxes of tin listed as belonging to the Campbells. Increase and George were trained whitesmiths specialising in tin. :) The "Mary" arrived in Sydney on 26th July 1835.  All 3 had connections with Nova Scotia and New England.  Increase left a verbal history that they struck severe weather and crew illness between New England and Rio.  This may account for the change to a "commercial" brig at Rio. Have more if you are still needing it

Dolphinrim

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Re: John Campbell and Temperance Perkins
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 26 January 14 05:39 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for all that great information received by email!!!