Burls / Vanstone marriage in Gibraltar

[KGarrad]

We can't give details of the 1911 census (copyright issues), but the children are all on those births registrations I gave you.

As I said, father Frederick is with the Navy in 1901 and 1911.
1901 census reference:

Can't see him in 1891, but here he is in 1881:
Class:  RG11; Piece:  2279; Folio:  88; Page:  18
Duck Street, Cawsand, Rame

Vanstone, Sarah Jane  Head  Married  F  34  b Rame, Cornwall
Vanstone, John A  Son  M  14  Grocers Boy  b Rame
Vanstone, Elizabeth  Daughter   F  11  Scholar  b Rame
Vanstone, Fredrick W  Son  M  9  Scholar  b Rame
Vanstone, Jim  Son  M  3  b Rame
Vanstone, Ellen  Daughter  F  1  b Rame

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KGerard

WOW thank you so much

Lots there to sift though

May I come back to you once I've had a look if I have any other questions 

Once agin thank you

Regards
Gerry

[KGarrad]

Please feel free to ask questions!
My great-grandmother was a Vanstone, so I am always happy to share knowledge of the family!

While I wait, here's the 1871 census of Frederick's family:
Class:  RG10; Piece:  2228; Folio:  95; Page:  32
Garnett Street(?), Cawsand, Rame

Vanstone, James F  Head  M  30  Stoker HM Navy  b Plympton St Mary, Devon
Vanstone, Sarah Jane  Wife  F  24  b Cawsand
Vanstone, John James A  Son  M  4  Scholar  b Cawsand
Vanstone, Elizabeth Eliza  Daughter  F  1  b Cawsand

[KGarrad]

In 1891, young John James Vanstone is with his grandmother, Mary Andrews (62) in Rame
Reference: Class:  RG12; Piece:  1806; Folio:  82; Page:  19

Therefore this looks to be the marriage of his parents?
December qtr 1865
St Germans district    vol 5c, page 79

Vanstone, James Alfred
Andrews, Sarah Jane

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Hi KGarrard

Thank you for all you have given me so far and also of your kind off to share more help if I need it

As I have said this is my wife's side of the family so I will wait for her to take it all in and get back to you

(Edit) Do you have the DoB for James Alfred Vanstone who married Sarah Jane Andrews please?
       
Kind Regards
Gerry

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Hi KGarrard

Can I ask you to clear up a query for me.

You said "In 1891, young John James Vanstone is with his grandmother, Mary Andrews (62) in Rame"
So I guess that must be Sarah Jane's Mother but I have her as Diana (see below) Have I got this wrong?

Sarah Jane Andrew, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Name:   Sarah Jane Andrew
Christening Date:   02 Jun 1848
Christening Place:   Wesleyan, Penzance, Cornwall, England
Father's Name:   Luke Andrew
Mother's Name:   Diana

Luke Andrew, "England Marriages, 1538–1973"
Name:   Luke Andrew
Birth Date:   1821 Age:   26
Spouse's Name:   Diana Matthews
Spouse's Birth Date:   1816 Spouse's Age:   31
Event Date:   16 May 1847
Event Place:   Madron Or Penzance, Cornwall, England
Father's Name:   Luke Andrew
Spouse's Father's Name:   James Matthews

Sorry to be a pain
&
Kind Regards
Gerry

[KGarrad]

Details of that 1891 census (Reference I gave before)
Duck Street, Cawsand, Rame, Cornwall

Andrews, Mary  Head  Widow  F  62  Nurse  b Cawsand
Vanstone, John J  Grandson  M  24  Fisherman  b Cawsand

Looking at FreeBMD, I can't see another marriage for a James Vanstone to a Sarah Jane?
And the marriage I found was in St Germans Registration District, which included the parish of Rame.


Sarah Jane in 1861, before the marriage:
Class:  RG 9; Piece:  1522; Folio:  93; Page:  25
Duck Street, Cawsand, Rame, Cornwall

Nicholls, Elizabeth  Wife  Married  60  Wife of a Seaman R.N.  b Cawsand
Andrews, Sarah Jane  Granddaughter  F  14  Scholar  b Cawsand
Nicholls, Joseph  Brother & Boarder  M  52  Unmarried  Greenwich Pensioner  b Cawsand
Burgett, Henry  Visitor  M  Widower  M  35  Mariner  b Portsmouth, Hants


1851 census: Class:  HO107; Piece:  1900; Folio:  109;
Garrett Street, Cawsand

Andrews, James  Head  M  54  Farmer of 17 Acres  b Newton Ferrers, Devon
Andrews, Sarah  Wife  F  55  b Newton Ferrers
Andrews, Mary A  Daughter  F  24  b Newton Ferrers
Andrews, Isaiah  Son  M  21  Merchants Clerk  b Newton Ferrers
Andrews, John  Son  M  Married  30  Ag Lab  b Newton Ferrers
Andrews, Mary  Daughter-in-Law  F  23  b Cawsand
Andrews, Sarah  Daughter-in-Law  F  4  b Cawsand

[KGarrad]

The Sarah Jane you found, with parents Luke and Diana, can be found here in 1851:

Class:  HO107; Piece:  1918; Folio:  684; Page:  1
North Street, Madron, Cornwall

Andrew, Luke  Head  M  30  Grocer & Shoemaker (Master Employing 1 Man)  b Penzance
Andrew, Diana  Wife  F  35  b St Levan
Andrew, Sarah Jane  Daughter  F  2  b Penzance


So not your Sarah Jane!

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Thanks KGarrard

That's why I need people like you to check my work


Cheers
Gerry