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IRISH OVERSEAS
« on: Sunday 12 February 06 22:41 GMT (UK) »
Have a look through this list.
It would be interesting to know if any Rootschatters have some of the people listed here in their family tree.

Famous Irish Americans
http://www.aoh61.com/history/ir_american.htm

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Irish Poor removed from England to Ireland 1860-1862
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 26 February 06 12:17 GMT (UK) »
http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/ships/irishpoor1860-62.htm

This is such an interesting site - definitely worth a look. Although it doesn't give addresses, there are instances of whole families moving back to Ireland, so in absence of any censuses, it could give someone a clearer picture of where their ancestors were and what they were doing.
(It didn't have mention of my Baileys, but never mind...)
Cheers,
Mags

Bailey - co.Limerick, Kilbeheny;co. Tipperary, Ballyporeen parish
King - co.Limerick, Kilbeheny parish
Moher - co.Tipperary, Ballyporeen parish
Farrell - co.Tipperary, Coolagarranroe, Skeheenaranky
Fitzgerald - ditto

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Re: Irish Poor removed from England to Ireland
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 26 February 06 22:03 GMT (UK) »
Mags,
That is such a sad site. It is a real insight into the conditions of the day - and it was such a tiny part of the whole picture - very interesting as you say and perhaps helpful to some searches.
Thanks
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Re: Irish Poor removed from England to Ireland
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 26 February 06 22:18 GMT (UK) »

I found this purely by chance - glad you found it interesting too. So sad though, as  you say.
I'd never really considered this 'reverse migration' between Ireland and England  happening in large numbers before; but certainly a few of my Irish cousins have moved between the two countries (although none have actually been thrown out of England -yet!)

Cheers.
Mags
Bailey - co.Limerick, Kilbeheny;co. Tipperary, Ballyporeen parish
King - co.Limerick, Kilbeheny parish
Moher - co.Tipperary, Ballyporeen parish
Farrell - co.Tipperary, Coolagarranroe, Skeheenaranky
Fitzgerald - ditto


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Re: Irish Poor removed from England to Ireland
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 26 February 06 22:43 GMT (UK) »
Well I knew it existed with removal orders  for English migrants - I found a mother and sons who came from Suffolk in 1836 to Lancashire were 'returned'- They were then found in 1841 back in Suffolk! I am sad to say my history and poitical knowledge lets me down - vaguely remember The Poor Law etc (will study all this when I retire!)
I went to hear an interesting talk at a local FHS about the Suffolk migrants and it was mentioned then that the Irish migrants were just too much for Liverpool to deal with in terms of monetary support- you will probably know.
I know when I was looking through baptismal records in Liverpool - 1850-60 - it brought it home to me a bit then - the sheer numbers of baptisms; the scrawly writing of the priests and the lack of regular spelling - tough!
Thanks for all your interesting posts.
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Re: Irish Poor removed from England to Ireland
« Reply #5 on: Monday 06 March 06 22:31 GMT (UK) »
Does anybody know if 1860-62 were the only years where the poor Irish were deported? I know my Harringtons leave England between 1855 and 59 and are back in the country by 1871. I always assumed this was voluntary but reading the above web site I wonder if they were deported?
Eaton (Woughton on the Green, Doncaster and N. London), Davis(Shinfield and London), Harrington (Ireland and London), Sutcliffe (Todmorden and London), Williams, Hollingsworth (Thaxted), Lane (Rotherhithe), Fuller (Chesterton, Cambs), Dilley (who knows where????)

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Re: Irish Poor removed from England to Ireland
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 07 March 06 02:18 GMT (UK) »
Very sad indeed,found a couple of my'name',children,to a Dublin convent.No mention of parent's,I wondered about the rellies I knew were around at the time.
How could they do that??
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Re: Irish Poor removed from England to Ireland
« Reply #7 on: Friday 31 March 06 15:48 BST (UK) »
I wonder if the large numbers in 1861 were anything to do with the American Civil War and the disruption in the cotton trade that led to famine in parts of north-west england

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IRISH OVERSEAS
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 18 October 06 03:59 BST (UK) »
Morning all
As I was born in Ballarat,I consider it my duty to provide home historical and political items that may interest our rootschatters

Attitudes towards Irish Immigration by Kerry Edwards new link Nov 2014
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01e85

The Gold Rush of California by Rev J Orr new link Nov 2014
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01e86

Emmigration to Australia
http://www.ironbarkresources.com

Emigration in Ennistymon Workhouse
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01e87
   
    I hope  you find this interesting reading.........
            Cheers from chrissy. 
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