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Canal Boatman/Lock keeper - Price
« on: Monday 28 July 08 11:00 BST (UK) »
Hi - I am trying to research my family tree on my father's side and have come unstuck.  My grandfather's father, Frank Price, is described on my grandfather's marriage certificate as Canal Boatman but family legend has it that he was a Lock Keeper at Kinver and fell in the canal and drowned when my grandfather was 7 - that would be 1911.

I haven't been able to find a satisfactory record on any of the censuses for Frank (who we believe was married to a girl called Fanny).   

Does anyone know if Lock Keepers were also called Canal Boatpeople and if they were exempt from censuses?

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Re: Canal Boatman/Lock keeper - Price
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 July 08 11:05 BST (UK) »
Provided a person 'overnighted' somewhere that had an enumeration schedule issued - or were in 'typical' stopping places (caravan on common, boat in canal lock / sidewater) where they could be enumerated by an oficial on the night, they should be found .... altho lots werent !

There are cases on the census of people in cow sheds, outhouses etc !

But I guess if someone just moored in a lonely stretch they would not have been enumerated ....
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Re: Canal Boatman/Lock keeper - Price
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 July 08 11:16 BST (UK) »
Can you get your Grandads Birth Cert to find out more about Frank and also verify his wife's name ?
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Re: Canal Boatman/Lock keeper - Price
« Reply #3 on: Monday 28 July 08 11:40 BST (UK) »
Good idea - I think that's the only thing I can do to move forwards.  Thanks.


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Re: Canal Boatman/Lock keeper - Price
« Reply #4 on: Monday 28 July 08 11:43 BST (UK) »
Theres a 15 year old Frank Price in Lancashire, Eccles area whose occupation is 3 words ending in Canal, its been overwriiten heavily by the analysis clerk with 'BARGE' ...... bit young tho if your Grandad arrived in 1904.

keep it on the back burner for a while ....... it may be that from that Birth Cert info, you can ID and obtain Frank's Marriage Cert which may help home in .....

What about a Death Cert for Frank, that would help with his age .....
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Re: Canal Boatman/Lock keeper - Price
« Reply #5 on: Monday 28 July 08 11:44 BST (UK) »
Hi
The 1901 census has a Joshua J Bradley heading the family at Kinver Lock House. His occupation is Boatman on canal so perhaps it was normal for the male members of a lock keeper family to work on the boats, leaving the women and kids to man the locks?
Do you have any other information about the family?
Rose (Black Country),Downs (Black Country),Wolloxall (any and all),Bark (Derbyshire),Wright (Derbyshire),Marsden (Derbyshire), Wallace (Black Country)

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Re: Canal Boatman/Lock keeper - Price
« Reply #6 on: Monday 28 July 08 11:51 BST (UK) »
This looks very good to be yer maun .... Wolverhampton is the right district for Kinver registrations.


Deaths Jun 1913 
 
Price  Frank  age 32  Wolverhampton  Vol 6b Page 624


so, depending on how well the Informant knew the deceased, we have an age to go on  ... which probably eliminates the chap I mentioned !


So Frank looks to have a birth year of c1881


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Re: Canal Boatman/Lock keeper - Price
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 01 July 14 17:50 BST (UK) »
Hi I've just seen your post my Grandfather's Family named Price were all on the Barges.  I also have
Frank Price in my tree.  Who was your franks dad? if your interested I could let you have my research
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