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Fountain Close and Weirs Close
« on: Friday 09 November 12 19:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I'm hoping someone will be able to help me.

I have discovered that my ancestor, William Nicholson B: 1798, lived at 28 High Street, Fountain Close Edinburgh in 1851 and Weirs Close, Edinburgh in 1861.

What I am wanting to do is to get a "picture" of their way of life and what type of streets they were etc.

Thanks

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Re: Fountain Close and Weirs Close
« Reply #1 on: Friday 09 November 12 19:46 GMT (UK) »
hi

this site might be of interest for you to look at
http://www.edinburgh-royalmile.com/closes/close-fountain.html if you look for the royal mile map fountain close is of niddrys street


also here is a site not with a picture but a drawing of fountain close

http://www.edinphoto.org.uk/0_h/0_lithograph_-_fountain_close.htm


ray

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Re: Fountain Close and Weirs Close
« Reply #2 on: Friday 09 November 12 20:11 GMT (UK) »
You will find Fountain Close on this map, in the top left hand corner, opposite (approximately) to John Knox House:

 http://www.rootschat.com/links/0s3y/

Weir's Close is on the same side of the road but located roughly in the middle of the top edge of the map.  In effect above the words 'Edinburgh & Leith Brewery.'

These were fairly typical of the housing in the Old Town at the time.

You might find more pictures of similar closes here:

 http://www.rootschat.com/links/0s3z/
 http://www.rootschat.com/links/0s40/

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Re: Fountain Close and Weirs Close
« Reply #3 on: Friday 09 November 12 20:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi All

Great description here, on the site already linked by Ray of 'Close':

CLOSE:  An entrance to a tenement, also sometimes providing access to the rear of the building.  There was often a gate at the front entrance which was closed at night.

www.edinphoto.org.uk/0_my_p_0/0_my_photographs_0_edinburgh_closes.htm

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Re: Fountain Close and Weirs Close
« Reply #4 on: Friday 09 November 12 21:47 GMT (UK) »
Fountain Close
The name of this close is derived from the fountain or street well which stood opposite the close until 1813 when it was removed further up to where the street was wider. It was here in 1574 that Thomas Bassendyne, printer, produced the earliest edition of the New Testament Bible printed in Scotland. It now houses the Scottish Saltire Society.
Weir's Close no longer exists.
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Re: Fountain Close and Weirs Close
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 November 12 13:13 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all so much for so much information.

That will keep me busy this weekend.

Thanks again.

Mo

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Re: Fountain Close and Weirs Close
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 November 12 17:35 GMT (UK) »
Blimey!

What an eye opener.  I cannot believe the conditions they must have been living in.  Fountain Close is among a group of Closes between Niddry Street and St Mary's Street which included Toddrick's Wynd and World's End Close!  My great great grandmother was brought up in Toddrick's Wynd (living there in 1851 when it was known as Murdoch's Close).  This was apparently demolished because, and I quote from a builder's journal of 1861: -

"We devoutly believe that no smell in Europe or Asia can equal in depth and intensity in concentration and power, the diabolical combination of sulphurated hydrogen we came upon one evening about 10.00 in a place called Todrick's Wynd".

Before then she lived in Paul's Works, Leith Wynd and a paper states about this place : -

"From a precipitous, narrow, and filthy close, you look up to the heights of hugh mansions, honeycombed into the receptablces of a hundred inhabitants; and at a height which it makes the head giddy to look up to or to look down from, you see two or three heads of children projecting, or filthy and squalid figures of their mothers, or of the other female inmates.

You ascend through the dirt and darkness, stair after stair, every stair leading you in succession to a floor in which every miserable room contains a household, and where, by opening doors and barring up doors, and from the absence of sufficient light even in the day time, you hardly know when you turn yourself whether you are coming or going out of or going farther into the labyrinth.  Into these places, parties in recent times have been dragged forcibly, stripped of their clothes and flung out again; and innumerable crimes have been committed of which the world remains in ignorance"

What sort of place was that?  A workhouse?

I dare not tell my mother.  She has always assumed that as her family came from Edinburgh off the Royal Mile she was posh :)

No the wonder the poor souls moved to Sunderland - Luxury  ;D

I've certainly got the "picture" now.

Blimey!!

Mo

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Re: Fountain Close and Weirs Close
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 13 November 12 18:07 GMT (UK) »
Blimey indeed, Mo  ;D Where did you get these descriptions from? They are so descriptive and emotive.

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 13 November 12 18:26 GMT (UK) »

...which included Toddrick's Wynd and World's End Close!  My great great grandmother was brought up in Toddrick's Wynd (living there in 1851 when it was known as Murdoch's Close).  This was apparently demolished because, and I quote from a builder's journal of 1861: -

"We devoutly believe that no smell in Europe or Asia can equal in depth and intensity in concentration and power, the diabolical combination of sulphurated hydrogen we came upon one evening about 10.00 in a place called Todrick's Wynd".


Background to the name and modern map location (just click on the map at the top) http://canmore.rcahms.gov.uk/en/site/115461/details/edinburgh+48+50+high+street+murdoch+s+close/

You won't be surprised to learn that Toddrick's Wynd was no better really in the 1600's!  www.oldandnewedinburgh.co.uk/volume2/page86.html

See also www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2420108
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