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Re: Elizabeth James 1875 Pontrhydyfendigaid Cardiganshire
« Reply #9 on: Monday 23 June 14 12:24 BST (UK) »
I would be getting Olwens Birth Cert if I was you to establish if Elizabeth James was married before.
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Re: Elizabeth James 1875 Pontrhydyfendigaid Cardiganshire
« Reply #10 on: Monday 23 June 14 15:58 BST (UK) »
Hi, I do have the 1908 Marriage certificate Elizabeths Father is down as Robert James deceased  Blacksmith. Elizabeth is a spinster and George Bachelor. On Olwens birth certificate states George Rodney Bayes and Elizabeth as parents.Regards Lyn

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Re: Elizabeth James 1875 Pontrhydyfendigaid Cardiganshire
« Reply #11 on: Monday 23 June 14 16:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Lyn,

There are two trees with different information.

Elizabeth was born 1876 Pontrhydfendigaid, Ceredigion Died 1953 Grovesend, Swansea.On the second tree it states she was born 1876 Tregaron, Cardiganshire.

Father Robert James born 1852 Tregaron, Cardiganshire died 1915 Pontrhydfendigaid.

Mother Elizabeth Jones born 1852 ???? died 1923 Pontrhydfendigaid.

Elizabeth & George's children
Alice Gertrude Bayes born 1906 Kensington died 4/7/1952 Bristol.
Susan Bayes born 13/12/1908 Kensington died 29/1/1999 Llangennech, Carmarthenshire.
On another tree it just has a son
Fredrick Rees Bayes born 25/9/1913 Grovesend died 1987 Swansea.

I hope this helps, neither tree has added any Census information.

Kind Regards,

Ellen


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Re: Elizabeth James 1875 Pontrhydyfendigaid Cardiganshire
« Reply #12 on: Monday 23 June 14 17:26 BST (UK) »
I have found the family on the 1881, 1891, 1901 & 1911 Census but no sign of Elizabeth.

1881 Census they are living at 13 Teify Street, Ponrhydfendigaid.

1891 Census Lisburne Arms, Bridge Street, Pontrhydfendigaid.

1901 Census still in Bridge Street.

If you are searching on FindMyPast put Caron instead of Pontrhydfendigaid they are noted for their very poor transcriptions for Wales. When I was searching Bangor, Caernarvonshire they have a lot of the records under County of Anglesey. ::)




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Re: Elizabeth James 1875 Pontrhydyfendigaid Cardiganshire
« Reply #13 on: Monday 23 June 14 17:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the info. That is why I find it hard to believe Elizabeth is the daughter of Robert James,in 1881 census there was an Elizabeth  born 1877 living with her grandmother Margaret Morris a few doors away from Robert James in Pontrhyd.. There's no record of Robert James being married twice. Regards Lyn

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Re: Elizabeth James 1875 Pontrhydyfendigaid Cardiganshire
« Reply #14 on: Monday 23 June 14 19:01 BST (UK) »
Just noticed Robert James Blacksmith on Elizabeths Marriage certificate of 1908 as being deceased.
1911 Cencus Robert James  Lisbourne Arms Pontrhyd.. cannot be the same as he died in 1915 something does not add up! Regards Lyn

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Re: Elizabeth James 1875 Pontrhydyfendigaid Cardiganshire
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 14:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Lyn,

Looks like it's the wrong family :-[ What are the ages for Elizabeth & George on the Marriage Certificate? also George's occupation & his father's name and occupation?

Ellen

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Re: Elizabeth James 1875 Pontrhydyfendigaid Cardiganshire
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 19:10 BST (UK) »
Hi, On Cert  George Rodney Bayes Batchelor  41  Horse Keeper   6 Southerns Street  Father Thomas Bayes dec. Violinist
  Elizabeth James  Spinster 36    Same address  Father  Robert James dec  Blacksmith
Witness Susan White mother, & could be A H Winston. Regards Lyn

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Re: Elizabeth James 1875 Pontrhydyfendigaid Cardiganshire
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 24 June 14 19:42 BST (UK) »
The age of the marriage cert would give Elizabeth's birth year as approx 1872. 

I wonder if she was living in Kensington in 1901 listed as Elizabeth M James 30 b S Wales Cardiganshire, Wales  working as a cook, which could explain where she met George

Re the witness - Susan White mother -Is she listed as Elizabeth's mother or was mother her surname?

Kay