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Elingrove,Tullow,Carlow.
« on: Thursday 06 March 14 17:17 GMT (UK) »
My Great Grandparents were Thomas Whelan ,Gamekeeper and Julia Dalton married in 1848 in Carlow,their son my grandfather William married for the second time in Dublin in 1922 citing the above as his parents,however i have never found a birth or baptism for him circa 1870.
I found his first marriage in 1894 also in Dublin citing his Parents as William Whelan and Margaret Redmond of Wexford., for which i was able to find a birth cert for 1870 this has been proven wrong recently by a descendant of William and Margaret here on the Wexford board who knows that William jnr never left Wexford.
So its back to the drawing board, last week i purchased the birth cert for his brother John 1865 '' The Course'' Tullowphelin and today i purchased what i believe to be his mothers death cert,
Death in Tullow,Carlow .Julia Whelan age 60 married wife of Thomas Whelan a Herd ,in May 1884 at'' Elingrove'' now i do not know if this is a townland or house name,has anyone from Carlow heard of Elingrove.
I have four likely candidates for Thomas's death from 1885 to 1897 all above the age of 56 to 86.
Any help with any of the above much appreciated.
Cheers Dathai.

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Re: Elingrove,Tullow,Carlow.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 06 March 14 17:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

In the parish of Ardistan there is a townland by the name of Ellengrove it is mentioned in the tithe applotment books for  Aghade could this be the place you are looking for.

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Re: Elingrove,Tullow,Carlow.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 06 March 14 17:58 GMT (UK) »
Excellent Diarmuid thank you. I will have a look on the applotments now.

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Re: Elingrove,Tullow,Carlow.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 06 March 14 18:36 GMT (UK) »
That spelling that you gave me Diarmuid has led me to Ellen Grove house ,Tullow,Ardristan ,now a protected structure believed built before 1830.


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Re: Elingrove,Tullow,Carlow.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 11 March 14 18:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi
The address you are looking for is Elm Grove Tullow it is less than a mile from Tullow on the Bunclody Rd.  I lived in Tullow nearly 40 years ago and there were Whelans living there at that time.  I think the man was John Whelan he had a wife and 1 daughter, Rita (she would probably be in her 60s now).  I think the house is still there
Hope this helps.  Sorry I have no further info and haven't been in Tullow in years. 
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Re: Elingrove,Tullow,Carlow.
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 11 March 14 18:28 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Ronnie , i had come across it being spelt as Elm Grove on some documents,would you know if the protected structure Ellen Grove and Elm Grove are one and the same.

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Re: Elingrove,Tullow,Carlow.
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 11 March 14 18:39 GMT (UK) »
Coincidence? my fathers sister was also a Rita and when i found her marriage it was Margarita.

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Re: Elingrove,Tullow,Carlow.
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 11 March 14 19:45 GMT (UK) »
Dathai
In relation to your post I thought as well it might be Elm Grove, I have just come back from a short break in Carlow and I took some pictures of cemetery headstones of Whelans from Elm Grove. I will post them as soon as I can , I too am researching Whelans of Carlow
Regards Genseacher
Byrne - Wexford
Carey - Dublin
Clifford - Dublin
Dwyer - Carlow and Wicklow
May - Dublin
Moore - Dublin
Noctor/Naughter - Wexford tarahill
Rooney - Dublin
Rossiter - Wexford
Wafer - Wexford and Dublin
Whelan - Carlow

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Re: Elingrove,Tullow,Carlow.
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 11 March 14 22:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Just after looking at the house on Google street view and its still there even though there is a new road and its just off the main road now, one time it was on the main road.  I never heard of Elln Grove
Good luck
Ronnie