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Re: Dempsey
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 16 September 09 11:39 BST (UK) »
Shane - just seen your offer of look-ups in the Thomson directories - is there anything for a Henry Dempsey or a Michael Dempsey - both master carpenters somewhere in Dublin.
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Re: Dempsey
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 16 September 09 12:21 BST (UK) »
There's part of the 1862 Thom's directory available online on the Library Ireland website at : http://www.libraryireland.com/Dublin-Street-Directory-1862/Home.php

I dont see any Dempsey Carpenters , but there is a John Dempsey,  at 4 Peter Street - builder and timber yard - link :   http://www.rootschat.com/links/0746/

will have a look in the 1863 and 1848 Thom's directories this evening..


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Re: Dempsey
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 16 September 09 20:35 BST (UK) »
It looks like neither Henry or Michael were running their own business (possibly employed by someone else), as they don't seem to be listed in the trade index in either directory.

Thom's 1863 - Carpenters & Builders section
 
 John Dempsey, 39 Bride st - (tenements - no further details)
 John Dempsey, 4 Peter st - builder & timber yard

No Dempsey Carpenters listed in Thom's 1848 or 1877

Sometimes people are not listed in the trade index but are included in the street listing - but it's not practical to search this by name. If you find an address on cert etc post the details and I'll have a look by address and see there there is anything. 


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Re: Dempsey
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 16 September 09 20:47 BST (UK) »
IGI lists Felix DEMPSEY born 25 July 1865 Dublin, Co. Dublin, son of Michael Dempsey and Maria Judge- page 576 in birth register so this is the one Shane found earlier-
  Name: Felix Dempsey
  Registration district: Dublin North
  year: 1865
  Volume: 12 / Page: 576
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Re: Dempsey
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 17 September 09 10:02 BST (UK) »
This just gets more weird - in the 1891 census for Colne, Lancashire, England there is a list of Mary Dempsey, widow, Felix Dempsey, son (b1869) and Mary Dempsey daughter b. 1865. living 55 Burnley Road, he is a house painter.  On his marriage cert. in 1899 he gives his age as 31, Master painter, father Henry Dempsey, Cabinet maker.
In 1901 census Felix and his wife live Gill Street, Colne, living at 264 Burnley Road are Mary Dempsey, widow, her daughter Mary Ann Burke & her husband John Burke with their children.  I found a death cert. for Mary Dempsey in 1911 reg. Burnley (REg office for Colne too) at 264 Burnley Road, Colne, widow of Michael Dempsey Cabinet maker (master). Informant her son J. Dempsey.  There is a Joseph Dempsey and his wife Alice living in Colne.  All the Dempseys are born, Dublin, Ireland ??? ???
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« Reply #14 on: Sunday 11 October 09 14:47 BST (UK) »
 I now have the marriage cert. of Mary Ann Dempsey to John Burke giving her father as Henry, her brother Felix was a witness.  When Mary Dempsey died her address was the same one she lived at in 1901 - the only problem seems to be on her death cert. giving her husband as Michael not Henry.  I have not received Felix's birth cert. from Ireland yet.
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Re: Dempsey
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 11 October 09 20:16 BST (UK) »
Moh

Ihave3 references to Dempsey @ Bride & Peter Streets in 1860s  in the Irish Times newspaper but they appear to relate to building businesses. If these are of interest just ask for them.

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Re: Dempsey
« Reply #16 on: Monday 12 October 09 15:25 BST (UK) »
On the marriage certs. it says Cabinet maker (master)
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Re: Dempsey
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 21 October 09 13:49 BST (UK) »
The birth cert. has just arrived - Felix Dempsey b. 25th July 1865 at 33 Liffey Street, Dublin - father Michael, cabinet maker, mother Mary nee Judge. 
If this is the only Felix born between 1865 & 1870 who is Henry he put on his marriage cert. as his father?
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