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Brown of Montrose 1745 / Shipbuilders
« on: Thursday 15 May 14 05:57 BST (UK) »
Hello. I've been looking for information on the family of John Brown and his descendants. They were shipbuilders in Montrose for a long time, so they must have been well known.
I also saw a reference to Browns associated with the Jacobites and wondered if he was ours or if there were any records available.

If anyone can help with information about this line of the family, we will be grateful Thank you.
I have listed those of our direct line below.

JOHN BROWN was born in 1745, in Montrose Angus Scotland. John died '1798
1st May' in Montrose Angus Scotland.
married
 JEAN BROWN [BROWN [RUXTON]] (Donald's four-times-great-grandmother) was born in 1753. Jean died '1824 27th April'.
John Brown married Jean Brown  [Ruxton]] '1770 29th June' in Montrose College Church, Montrose
Angus, Midlothian, Scotland.
They had six children:
John Brown
Alexander Brown
David Brown
Elizabeth Brown
James Brown
Robert Brown

JOHN BROWN was born '1781 1st May', in Montrose Angus Scotland, to John Brown and Jean Brown  [Ruxton],
 John died '1852 29th July' in Montrose Angus Scotland.
He married
 SUSANNAH BROWN  [BARCLAY] was born '1788 9th May', in Montrose Angus Scotland, to William Barclay and Christian Barclay [Law].
Susannah died '1870 19th February' in Oakwood Cottage, Hillside, Montrose Angus Scotland.
John Brown married Susannah Brown  [Barclay]] '1808 10th January' in Montrose Angus Scotland.
Theyhad eleven children:
Jean Craigie Brown in 1808
James Brown in 1810
Susan Brown in 1811
Alexander Brown in 1813
Anne Brown in 1815
John Brown in 1816
David Barclay Brown in 1818
Susan Brown in 1820
Willimina Brown in 1822
Christina Brown in 1823
Robert Brown in 1827



Below is the last of my direct line to leave Montrose for Australia:
Note Vic = Victoria Australia

JAMES BROWN 1810 Montrose
married
Barbara BROWN nee Clark b 24 3 1822 Montrose Scotland d Daylesford Vic 1868
 with the following
children born in Scotland:
1 Susan Jane Brown 3 4 1842 Mar 1861 in Vic to John Conyngham McCAUSLAND
2. Hector Munro BROWN 2 9 1843
3. Ann Calvert BROWN b 29 12 1844 mar 1865 in Vic to William Archibald SMYLY
4. Charles Chalmers BROWN 16 8 1846 mar 1870 Vic to Sarah Margaret HODGE
5. Herbert Wallace BROWN b 4 5 1848
6. Mary Burnett BROWN b 17 10 1849

Our line then goes from Charles Chalmers Brown to present day in Australia

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Re: Brown of Montrose 1745 / Shipbuilders
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 15 May 14 19:22 BST (UK) »
Montrose Rosehill Cemetery (in the 'Angus Monumental Inscriptions' book) has

"Jn Brown shipbuilder here 10.4.1852 73, w Susan Barclay 19.2.1870 81, gs Hector Monro Brown 23.10.1844 13m. int near this tablet, da Williamina 2.6.1880 59. David Barclay Brown d Broughty Ferry 29.10.1895 76".
(You may have this already however).

The Montrose Parish Church has a James Brown shipmaster, who died in Newcastle-on Tyne 1841 - his wife was Elizabeth Donaldson and one of his sons, also James, died in Bendigo Australia  in 1899 aged 64.  If it's useful, I could add more details of this inscription.





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Re: Brown of Montrose 1745 / Shipbuilders
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 May 14 23:56 BST (UK) »
Thank you Breaky. No, I didn't have this. Very grateful for it.
I have researched to establish names and dates through the usual popular sites. I found it incredible difficult to research Scottish records. And not being familiar with the area, didn't really know where to start there.
So, I have names and dates as posted but nothing else. So, I was trying to discover what I could about the people I had found. Awful lot of Browns in Scotland .

Can I ask about 'Broughty Ferry". I thought this was a mis transcription on another person and that he had 'bought a ferry"!!!  I gather it is a place?
Thank you.

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Re: Brown of Montrose 1745 / Shipbuilders
« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 May 14 10:29 BST (UK) »
The "Links to Angus resources"  at the top of the page of questions is useful, if you haven't tried it already.  Broughty Ferry is a seaside holiday place close to Dundee.  Photos of it are here

http://photopolis.dundeecity.gov.uk/search/node/Broughty%20Ferry

Here's another link from the Resources

www.angus.gov.ukhistory/museums/montrose/maritime.htm

I haven't checked the Resources for all the site addresses with old maps of Angus (lots!), but be prepared for lots of enjoyable side-tracking.





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Re: Brown of Montrose 1745 / Shipbuilders
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 May 14 13:19 BST (UK) »
Sounds great. I will explore over the weekend. Thank you very much.

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Re: Brown of Montrose 1745 / Shipbuilders
« Reply #5 on: Monday 16 June 14 21:26 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Your Browns are my Browns. I am descended from Jean Craigie Brown.  I have done a fair amount of family history and knew that James B went to Australia where he continued shipbuilding or repairing..  But I'd love to know more precisely.  His children made the original tracing of the Browns easier since their middle names were the surnames of the various spouses of James's sisters. 
I have a certain amount about the shipbuilding business. Also what happened to William Barclay. And some wills inc John Brown d1852. ..By the way I have this John Brown born in Craig (a couple of miles from Montrose), not n Montrose.
Yours
Ross Wallace

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Re: Brown of Montrose 1745 / Shipbuilders
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 June 14 00:26 BST (UK) »
Hello Ross, absolutely delighted to hear from you. I confirm that we have the same family and I will send you a pm. So glad you found the posts.
Critchley, Morgan, Mogford, Marks, Price,  Pryce,Hammond, Lambert, (Davis) Lane and Thomas in Gloucestershire, Herefordshire and Somerset to South Wales.  Northover, Samways, Stevens, Clark, Ridge and Thornhill in Dorset