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Herbert/ Dowdall
« on: Thursday 10 April 14 10:35 BST (UK) »
I am having a problem trying to uncover a mystery nephew
Stanley George Herbert died 1969 in Mansfield informant was Desmond John Dowdall stated as nephew,
But this is the bit i get stuck on. John T Dowdall and Alice Rimmington had 2 children Doreen born 1928 married 1965 no children and Desmond born 1930 married 1958 no children.
Stanley Herberts wife name was Lily Elizabeth Lockstone so no Rimmington surname there.
Can anyone help me find a connection please.

             thank you
              Ann

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Re: Herbert/ Dowdall
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 10 April 14 11:07 BST (UK) »
Hello Ann,

We might need a bit more info to help.... I can't even find Stanley Herbert's death in Mansfield 1969?

The link could be further back, could Stanley Herbert have been married previously and he was a nephew through marriage etc ?


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Re: Herbert/ Dowdall
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 10 April 14 11:17 BST (UK) »
The only Stanley George Herbert that I can see, died in 1969 in Hatfield, Hertfordshire, registration district.
Is this your Stanley Herbert?

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Re: Herbert/ Dowdall
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 10 April 14 11:28 BST (UK) »
Hi

I have him born in 1899 Islington died in hospital in Mansfield 1969.He married a Lily Elizabeth Lockstone according to the info i was given in India.

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Re: Herbert/ Dowdall
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 10 April 14 11:31 BST (UK) »
death register
Mar 1970
Stanley George Herbert
Mansfield
3c/427
Birth about 1899

If he died in the December 1969, he could have been registered in March Q
AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
Paternal Line--An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing.Wink. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
Husbands-Beckett. Heald. Pilkington. Arnold. Hall. Willows. Dring. Newcomb. Hawley

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Re: Herbert/ Dowdall
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 10 April 14 11:38 BST (UK) »
Birth
Dec 1899
Islington
Stanley George Herbert
1b/166
AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
Paternal Line--An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing.Wink. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
Husbands-Beckett. Heald. Pilkington. Arnold. Hall. Willows. Dring. Newcomb. Hawley

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Re: Herbert/ Dowdall
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 10 April 14 11:39 BST (UK) »
Thanks Larkspur.... that explains that  :D

Added: it is strange that the death registration only gives his year of birth and not his full birthdate, as they were usually entered by 1970... perhaps the person who registered his death didn't know it?

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Re: Herbert/ Dowdall
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 10 April 14 11:43 BST (UK) »
Marriage?

September qtr 1926
Edmonton district    vol 3a, page 1779

Herbert, Stanley G
Lockstone, Violet V C


Hi

I have him born in 1899 Islington died in hospital in Mansfield 1969.He married a Lily Elizabeth Lockstone according to the info i was given in India.

                      Ann

Not sure I understand the relevance of India?


Anyway, Electoral Register, 1924
169 Northumberland Park, Tottenham

Herbert, Martha
Herbert, Richard James
Herbert, Stanley George
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Herbert/ Dowdall
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 10 April 14 12:44 BST (UK) »
I would think the India reference has come from the same source as the wife being Lily Elizabeth. I had a look to see if he could have even married sisters, there is only this birth
Dec 1899 Bristol 6a/203
Violet Victoria G Lockstone
AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
Paternal Line--An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing.Wink. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
Husbands-Beckett. Heald. Pilkington. Arnold. Hall. Willows. Dring. Newcomb. Hawley