looking for Joseph David Dent b1846

[cando]

I've never had the need to search land titles in NSW so can't help you with your request.  From the linked article it appears to be a lease.  Perhaps make a new request and link this thread.

Have you browsed the NSW Resources board?

Good luck.

Cando

[cando]

Arrival Victoria as an unassisted immigrant.  Manifest shows occupation baker.
WALLACE Alex 21 years Arrived Feb 1880 on the JOHN ELDER  Port B Fiche378 Page005

Marriage Victoria
WALLACE Alexander Burns born Scotland
TAGGART Grace Rebecca  born Carlton
1882  Reg#914

The Argus 26 Sep 1885
Funeral Notices. THE Friends of Mr. ALEX. B. WALLACE, baker, are invited to follow the remains of his late   beloved wife to the place of interment in the St. Kilda Cemetery.
The funeral is appointed to move from his residence, No. 134 Punt-road, Windsor, to-morrow (Sunday), the 27th inst., at 3 o'clock. 
ALF. AUG. SLEIGHT, undertaker.

The Argus  6 Dec 1890
WINE LICENSE FOR AN EATING-HOUSE.
Alexander B. Wallace applied for a colonial wine license in connection with a restaurant in Ludstone-chambers, Collins-street. The place would accommodate 200 persons at lunch, and would as a generall rule be closed in the evening……………….
It was refused.

There are a number of mentions of a victualler and hotel proprietor Alexander WALLACE in Adelaide.

Malvern Standard 1st Oct 1910
TENDERS
To Confectioners. Fancy Goods and Haberdashery Shopkeepers,Stationers, Tobacconists, and Others.
In the Estate of ALEXANDER BURNS WALLACE, late of No. 68 Armadale street, ARMADALE.
TENDERS will be received at my Office on or before Thursday, 6th Oct., at noon, for the Stock-in-Trade of the Business in Confectionery, Fancy Goods and Haberdashery, Stationery, Tobacco and Cigarettes, lately carried on by the above-named deceased at the above address.
The approximate retail value of the stock is
Confectionery and Jars           £27
Fancy Goods and Stationery  £15
Haberdashery £6 Tobacco, &c. £6
                                            £54
Stock Lists may he inspected at my Office, or at the shop. Tenders may be either for the whole stock, or separately for any of the four classes of goods shown in the Stock Lists.

Tenders to be endorsed '' Tenders re deceased," and to be accompanied by a deposit of £1.
The highest or any tender not necessarily accepted. Terms Cash.
Dated 29th September, 1910.
J. W. STRANGER,
Curator of the Estates of Deceased Persons, No. 488 Collins street, Melbourne.

St Kilda Cemetery
CEB
207  James TAGGART   D. 13 June 1891 aged  69 years
        also his wife Margaret   D. 8 Sep 1881 aged 57 years
        also son-in-law Alex B WALLACE   D. 24 Aug 1910 52 years
        & his wife Grace   D. 25 Sep 1885 aged 26 years.

I cannot find any evidence he was a land agent.

Cando 

Cando

[Jeffrey]

Thank you for even more information. Much appreciated.
I have found that Joseph David Dent owned 28 acres of land on which there were Orange and lemon Trees and Vines.
He was selling this in the 'West Australian' Newspaper in Feb 1900.
J. D. DENT,Hectorville, near Payneham, South Australia


Interestingly his cousin Henry Richardson also had a fruit farm at 'Wattle Bank' Bago.

Judy

[Jeffrey]

Dear All,
Thank you everyone for all your  help with Joseph David Dent. I appreciate the time and effort made.

I was looking through Cando's posts and found this at the bottom of each:-

Remember that everything is only speculation until verified!!!!

So I got to thinking that the funny thing is, through this large amount of info, I still have no reference to him being the son of Joseph Dent in Brackenbar, Nr Appleby Westmorland England or anything to suggest he came from that area.

I have been looking on the Trove site as I thought there may be an obituary with some history but no luck. So although I am fairly sure it is him because everything fits, I still have not actually verified it.
Again his daughter was called Florence Mary Eleanor - and I know it is just a pointer but his mother and sister were called Mary which is a common name, but he also had a sister called Eleanor - which is quite an unusual name.

As I am in England & as he is not my direct ancestor I can not justify the cost of sending for a marriage cert.

The reason why I am so interested, besides being part of my family, is I am trying to see just how many of my farming ancestors, and why they went out to Australia around that time. They were not all younger sons and some of the older sons inherited a farm over here - what made so many of them emigrate? I have over a dozen around his age or older, who must have all known each other, emigrate.

Judy

[Malcolm33]

Dear All,

So I got to thinking that the funny thing is, through this large amount of info, I still have no reference to him being the son of Joseph Dent in Brackenbar, Nr Appleby Westmorland England or anything to suggest he came from that area.
Again his daughter was called Florence Mary Eleanor - and I know it is just a pointer but his mother and sister were called Mary which is a common name, but he also had a sister called Eleanor - which is quite an unusual name.
As I am in England & as he is not my direct ancestor I can not justify the cost of sending for a marriage cert.
Judy

     I take it that Joseph David Dent would have been the one baptised 13 September 1846 at St.Michael's, Appleby with parents Joseph and Mary.    There was a sister called Tamar born at Brackenber in 1838 and Joseph married Mary Kersey in 1822, so J.D. was quite a late arrival.  Perhaps it might be worth trying to contact Tamar's descendants.  She married a John Balmer in 1863 and was buried at New Shildon Co. Durham on 16 July 1870. See http://familytree.chasegray.co.uk/4207.htm   then go to the Home Page where you can click on an email contact.

[Jeffrey]

Hi Malcolm,
Thank you for the reply.
I have traced Tamar already and unfortunately her only son died at birth in 1867 then she died very soon after in 1870. However I am in touch with some ancestors of other  brothers who I could email to see if they have any info.

Will let you know if they know anything.

Judy

[judb]

This thread has found a great deal of information about a Joseph David DENT and I agree with you that there is still not 100% proof although there are some clues which imply that he is the man you seek.

For example: the 1872 TROVE marriage notice for Joseph David DENT says that he is "of Adelong NSW" so if you are satisfied that the other DENTs in Adelong are your family then it seems highly likely that this is your man.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13253901

Do you have this marriage certificate?  Australian marriage certificates provide much information and should tell you the bridegroom's full name, occupation, place of residence, conjugal status, place and date of birth, age, father's name and mother's maiden name.  Of course this will depend on the information supplied - I have seen certificates which give the birthplace as just England.   

A transcription is much cheaper (about $AU20) and quicker than ordering from the NSW BMD site.  There are three approved transcription agents listed - all provide good service. (Scroll to the bottom of the page)
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/bdm_fh.html

NSW   227/1872    Registered at Sydney
Joseph David DENT, Emily C FLORANCE

Judith

[Jeffrey]

Thank you Judith,
Yes I am sure about the other Dents being from this family as they have been well sourced by other members.

I have looked at a tree on a well known site and have sent a message asking about Joseph David Dent  to see if they have any documentation.  It was just a few days ago so I shall have to be patient. Ha! Ha!

Will post if I get a reply.

Hope the weather is cooler with you now and the thunder storms have moved away.

Judy

Judy

[Jeffrey]

Just a quick update. No have not had a reply but found this in the Newspaper.
'The Register Adelaide 11 July 1905
Personal notes from England
From our special correspondent The Register Office Fleet St London July 9th
Mr. and Mrs. J. D. Dent left to-day for the Cumberland Lakes to visit relatives in Mr. Dent's native country. They will continue their journey to Scotland, and after visiting the chief places of interest in Edinburgh and Glasgow they propose to go further north to see some of the beauty spots popular . with tourists,, and will probably be absent from London for five or six weeks.'

If they are going to visit the Cumberland Lakes to visit relative  then his sister lived in Penrith Cumberland right on the edge of the Lake District.
So although it is not proof of who his father was it is heading in the right direction!!!

Judy