Author Topic: COATS family representing COATS cotton Co in Russia in late 1800s  (Read 14863 times)

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Re: COATS family representing COATS cotton Co in Russia in late 1800s
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 02 May 13 10:47 BST (UK) »
Could Lorna have been Lilian from Aghadowey's list of daughters (not second born girl though, more like last born really)?

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Re: COATS family representing COATS cotton Co in Russia in late 1800s
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 02 May 13 10:51 BST (UK) »
I thought about that too Monica, and her birth date could work OK too, but unfortunately it does not fit with her reported death date of 1895, which I think is more or less accurate. Thanks for the suggestion anyway.

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Re: COATS family representing COATS cotton Co in Russia in late 1800s
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 02 May 13 10:52 BST (UK) »
According to the family trees those daughters either didn't marry (as in Lilian's case) or did not marry anyone called Epps (or anything close to that surname). Also, none died before 1900 or in Russia.
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Re: COATS family representing COATS cotton Co in Russia in late 1800s
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 02 May 13 12:38 BST (UK) »
Well that rather clinches it re that family. Thanks for that further information.


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Re: COATS family representing COATS cotton Co in Russia in late 1800s
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 02 May 13 12:49 BST (UK) »
Is this the same John Epps who taught the Romanov children from 1904-c1918 (or 1904-1908)?
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Re: COATS family representing COATS cotton Co in Russia in late 1800s
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 02 May 13 13:01 BST (UK) »
Not sure Aghadowey if you are asking me this question again, but if so see reply #8.

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Re: COATS family representing COATS cotton Co in Russia in late 1800s
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 02 May 13 13:13 BST (UK) »
Sorry- missed the reply in amongst the posts.  :-[

I found this online but no indication that he was married-
John Epps taught 1904-1908, died Australia 1935, had family. After he died in Australia in 1935 his nephew, William Epps, sought to get them appraised by booksellers Maggs in London.
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2004/s1220082.htm

Also this family tree but think it's unlikely if John Epps was born c1823 then he was the man teaching in 1904-
John Epps left Kent early in life after obtaining his teaching degree. He eventually made his way to the Lyceum in St. Petersburg, Russia which was a high school for young nobles who were preparing for diplomatic life. During 1904 John was selected from the Lyceum to take the post of English tutor to the four Grand Duchesses, the children of Czar Nicholas II and Alexandria. That is a post he held until shortly before the tragic events of 1918. After John's death, a ring that had been presented to him by Czar Nicholas, was given as a bequest to Florence Dorothy Nutt, his grand-niece.
http://www.kent-opc.org/opcfamilydata/getperson.php?personID=I3012&tree=1
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Re: COATS family representing COATS cotton Co in Russia in late 1800s
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 02 May 13 13:26 BST (UK) »
Thankyou Aghadowey - I am familiar with this, but am also aware that unfortunately quite a bit of it is incorrect.

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Re: COATS family representing COATS cotton Co in Russia in late 1800s
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 02 May 13 13:33 BST (UK) »
I know there are errors but was trying to establish if this is the correct John Epps to help pinpoint his wife.
Did a quick search on FindMyPast index for overseas deaths and marriages without seeing anything but there may not have been any consular reports of either filed.
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