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John Powell married Jane Mapp 1779, Hanley William
« on: Tuesday 27 August 13 14:01 BST (UK) »
Hit a brick wall for birth/death of John. Discovered a possible death of son Samuel 4/4/1798
Have christenings of other children Richard 25/5/1799, Jane,4/4//1789, Thomas, 4/3/1785, Mary,3/3//1782 & Edward 16/8/1801. Cannot locate any deaths or other with the exception of Samuel d.1798 & Edward 1843.
Seeking Johns "whereabouts " 1790-1797 as a 7 year age gap between children Jane & Samuel.

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Re: John Powell married Jane Mapp 1779, Hanley William
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 27 August 13 16:58 BST (UK) »
Hi

The National Burial Index lists the burial of a John Powell age 79 at All Saints Church Hanley William on 27 Dec 1835.  Could this be him?

Kay

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Re: John Powell married Jane Mapp 1779, Hanley William
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 27 August 13 18:35 BST (UK) »
I have John Powell b. 1754.
He and Jane Mapp had 10 children.
In addition to the ones you listed I have Thomas b. 1780 ( he possibly died and they used the name again for a later son), Ann b. 1784 d. 1866,  Sarah b.  1785, and John b. 1793.
I have the second Thomas  b.1787.
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Re: John Powell married Jane Mapp 1779, Hanley William
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 27 August 13 21:58 BST (UK) »
Many thanks.Was John born in Hanley William in 1754? Can u direct me to where I might discover what his occupation was?
Cheers Cheryle.


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Re: Parents of John Powell married Jane Mapp 1779, Hanley William
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 06 March 14 05:46 GMT (UK) »
searching for Father & mother John Powell born Abt 1750/1754. I have found a Thomas Powell in the poll year of 1714 his abode Eastham  and handwritten reference "chimney park". This could be a coincidence, but John Powell's grandson Edmund Powell born 1834 lived at chimney Park Eastham  from Abt 1868 till his death in 1879. Feel like I could be clutching at straws? Thank you

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Re: John Powell married Jane Mapp 1779, Hanley William
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 13 March 14 10:29 GMT (UK) »
Why can't I find a baptism/ christening for John Powell with Father Thomas and mother Mary?

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Re: John Powell married Jane Mapp 1779, Hanley William
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 13 March 14 11:12 GMT (UK) »
John may have not been born/christened Hanley William.
Was Jane from there?.
Brides usually Married in their own Parish.


BAPTISMS, All Saints, Hanley William to JOHN/JANE Powell or Powel;
THOMAS, 26 March 1800
MARY, 3 March 1782
ANN, 2 Jan 1785
THOMAS, 4 March 1787
JANE, 4 April 1789
JOHN, 28 April 1793
SARAH, 7 June 1795
SAMUEL, 25 Feb 1798, Buried 4 July 1798 (infant)
RICHARD, 26 May 1799
EDWARD, 16 Aug 1801

To MARY Powell, same Church;
PHOEBE, 28 Sept 1800
FANNY, 12 June 1803

To JANE Powell same Church;
WILLIAM BUSK, 28 Feb 1808 (John BUSK Married Jane POWELL 7 March 1808)

All above on FreeREG.

Now on Genuki, in nearby places to Hanley William, we have places in Herefordshire and Shropshire only a few miles away;
I would at least check Hereford and Shropshire as well for his Christening.
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WOR/HanleyWilliam/

Trish :)

EDIT, answered my own question, JANE Mapp, 12 April 1754, All Saints to THOMAS/JANE
Siblings;
THOMAS, 19 Feb 1744/45
WILLIAM, 15 March 1750/51
JOHN, 2 Oct 1757
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Thomas MAP Married Jane SOUTHALL, 5 May 1743, Bromfield, Shropshire
Both of the Parish of Eastham, Co Worcs
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Re: John Powell married Jane Mapp 1779, Hanley William
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 20 March 14 21:49 GMT (UK) »
Looking at my tree I think I should have listed John Powell about 1754 as I  have no record for his birth..  I was going by the birth date of birth of Jane Mapp.

Sorry that I do not have any more information.
Catherine. :(
 
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Re: John Powell married Jane Mapp 1779, Hanley William
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 23 March 14 13:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi again,
As Kay pointed out;
The National Burial Index lists the burial of a John Powell age 79 at All Saints Church Hanley William on 27 Dec 1835.
So born c 1756 so you are not far out.
Trouble is we have no idea where John was from.

F/S has 2 possibles, 1 in Ribbesford and 1 in Halesowen  1756
The only ones on F/S with Parents Thomas/Mary are born Herefordshire  1754 and Bedfordshire 1753. 

Trish :)
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