Is this the death of my 3 x g.grandfather?

[LizzieW]

My 3 x g.grandfather John Stanton and family (9 children) all from Lincolnshire were living at Victoria Street, Mottram in Longdendale, Newton, Cheshire on the 1841 census, ref 101/2/14/22 where they are shown as Stonton.  John is shown as a labourer and his eldest daughter Mary Ann has been added at the end of the family - probably because she was actually in Boston, Lincs at the time. 

My problem is that when Mary Ann married in 1842 she gave his occupation as carpenter but didn't state deceased, another daughter Jane who married in 1847 also gave his occupation as carpenter, no mention of him being deceased, however, on the death of another of his daughters on 15 February 1845 (the family back in Lincolnshire by then), he is shown as labourer deceased.  On 1851 census his wife is shown as a widow.

My problem is that although I can imagine a carpenter having to work as a labourer if jobs were short, I can't imagine him being a Railway Agent, which is what is shown on the death certificate I have.  The date of death is given as 27 June 1841 at Back Lane, Newton (sub District Newton and Godley) informant Elizabeth Stanton (I assume this was his 2nd eldest daughter who was living with the family on the census).  His age is given as 44, although he was baptised in April 1799 which would only make him 42, although I suppose he could have been baptised as a child rather than a baby as I don't have a date of birth for him.

So does anyone know if Back Lane Newton is anywhere near to Victoria Street, Mottram in Longdendale, Newton or have I just got the wrong man?  I've asked GRO to search for deaths of  John Stanton, Labourer between 1841 and 1845 and they found one death, but that man was 66 and lived in Hooley Hill, Audenshaw, so I'm not sure why they sent me the certificate.

Lizzie

[stanmapstone]

Back Lane Newton and Victoria Street Newton are the same street. See http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html?coords=395462,395810  The first stretch from the bridge over the railway is marked as Back Lane on the 1874-1881 map and Victoria Street on the 1898 map. Still called Victoria Street today. http://goo.gl/maps/HBTAf

Stan

[LizzieW]

Oh thanks Stan, so that means it's the right man.  Perhaps his daughter just wanted to make him look more important when she registered his death. 

Lizzie

ps.  I suppose it makes sense to live there if he was working for the railway company. 

[suzard]

From 1841 census
Description
"All that part of the Township of Newton bounded on the South by the Township of Godley on the North by Hole Bottom Brook on the West by the Ashton Rd comprising of Victoria St Dick Lane and Dolsitt Hole."

This is the enumerator's walk
Place Newton Green
address
Sand Hole Green (2 dwellings)
Mrs Ashton's Buildings (pub and 3 dwellings)
J Reece Buildings (Inn & 3 dwellings)
Mrs Ashton's Buildings ( 10 dwellings)

Back Lane
9 dwellings
Drummond Buildings (4 dwellings)
Back Lane (5 dwellings)
Mil?? Ashton B (4 dwellings)
Back Lane (5 Dwellings)
Victoria Street (33 dwellings - the Stantons are in approx the 32nd dwelling)
Forrest (2 Dwellings)
Dick Lane (12 Dwellings
Dolsitt Hole (4 Dwellings)

Hope this helps too

Suz

[LizzieW]

Thank you very much Suz, I ought to read the description and enumerator's walk more often. 

Lizzie

[heatherjulie]

You can walk from Hooley Hill to Newton

[heatherjulie]

John Stanton aged 44

burial: 27 June 1841 , Newton (near Ashton-under-Lyne), Cheshire, England

 

[heatherjulie]

This is the other one that isn't yours
Burial: 11 May 1845 St Peter, Ashton under Lyne, Lancashire, England
 John Stanton -
 Age: 76 years
 Abode: Hooley Hill
 Buried by: A. H. Hulton Curate

[LizzieW]

I think we've almost proved John Stanton aged 44 is the correct man.  Where do you think he would have been buried in Newton?  He was C of E as far as I know, well he married in C of E church and all his children were baptised C of E.  I doubt there was a head stone, so unless the burial record gives a place of death and maybe name of his widow, I think I'm stuck.