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Re: completely and utterly baffled!
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 27 September 14 18:20 BST (UK) »
I've looked up every possible way of spelling Julianna too - but without any luck!!

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« Reply #37 on: Monday 10 November 14 17:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jackski

I don't know whether you've got any further with your quest but I'm always up for a challenge.

This may be a bit of a curved ball but there is an EDMUND GOLDSTONE of 3 Camden Place, Bath who receives his certificate of competency as Second Mate in 1851. (Ancestry)

Apart from that, after the 1841 census he too disappears, no marriage or death in this country as far as I can tell.

He was baptised 15 Dec 1830 at St Swithin's, Walcot, Bath
f. William Bryant Goldstone (Surgeon)
m. Frances
of Camden Place
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It seems possibly more than a coincidence that Irene lived at Cornwall Buildings, Walcot Street and he lived in the same parish just a few streets away.

She could have sailed with him and returned to England after his death.

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Re: completely and utterly baffled!
« Reply #38 on: Monday 10 November 14 18:51 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that. No - I haven't got any further but this is interesting... I will see if I can follow this any further somehow.

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Re: completely and utterly baffled!
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 11 November 14 08:46 GMT (UK) »
Did you ever get a copy of her Dads Will?
Was Irene mentioned at all? If so, what surname? Were the other children mentioned? Any other clues from it?
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« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 11 November 14 13:48 GMT (UK) »
Her Dad's will never mentioned her. It mentioned his widow, Winifred, and his son by this second wife, and also mentioned daughters Euphemia and Ophelia, but not Irene or Cecilia (Cecilia was still alive at that point)

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« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 11 November 14 15:32 GMT (UK) »
If she ran off with Edmund (or anyone else) her father may have disowned her. Or looking at Frances Goldstone's estate Edmund could have made more than adequate provision for Irene and wouldn't have needed her father's support. Edmund's father was a surgeon as was his father before him. Perhaps Frances' will may mention Edmund and possible wife.

I also found a reference to Frances Goldstone in a list of notable converts to Catholicism.

Frances and husband William Bryant Goldstone seem to have gone their separate ways, perhaps because of her conversion, or maybe it caused it. She remained in Bath and he was in the Channel Islands in 1851 and 1861 and may have outlived her. Again her will may reveal more.

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« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 11 November 14 18:25 GMT (UK) »
The Kelly family were Catholics too.... this is all looking quite promising again after thinking I'd hit a final brick wall!

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« Reply #43 on: Tuesday 11 November 14 18:33 GMT (UK) »
Its EDWARD Goldstone who received masters certificate in 1851 - not Edmund! Disappointed now! Thought we were on to something.

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« Reply #44 on: Tuesday 11 November 14 23:02 GMT (UK) »
No, I've rechecked and it is definitely EDMUND.   ;D
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