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The mean streets of Ealing, 1861
« on: Monday 07 April 14 10:25 BST (UK) »
I have a family in Ealing, 1861; the family are the Taylors, and they live in no 4, St John Cottages.

RG 9/778/11 p 17

Now, I have become quite experienced at finding streets in old London, and parts of modern London that were near old London (Islington, and even Bethnal Green when it was a village).

But Ealing village (and in 1861, it was a village) is stumping me.

I have paged back and forth in the 32 pages of the census garnering street names

Of the addresses that are clear to me, I have:

Lancaster Rd
Albert Terrace
Victoria Terrace
Oak Cottages
Harveys Cottages
Forrester Inn
Tranquil Terrace
Barkers Lane
St Johns Cottages
Alpha Cottages
Dickens House
Christ Church
Providence Place
Grove
Slacks Cottages [sp?]
Grove House
Grove Place
Walters Lane
Kings Arms pub/Inn/place

I found this map, and stared at it for ages:

http://maps.nls.uk/view/102347409

And I simply cannot tally the two.

Can anyone with more knowledge (or maps!!!) help?

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Re: The mean streets of Ealing, 1861
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 April 14 10:37 BST (UK) »
This is odd; I'm getting a better match on the CURRENT day google map;

Here's the Kings Arms;

https://maps.google.com/maps?num=20&ie=UTF-8&q=The+Kings+Arms,+Ealing&fb=1&hq=%22kings+arms%22+ealing&cid=9198300048874205196&ei=TXBCU6r2IoKqhAfJioHIBQ&ved=0COIBEPwSMBg

Oak Road (likely Oak Cottages in 1861)

https://maps.google.com/maps?num=20&ie=UTF-8&q=The+Kings+Arms,+Ealing&fb=1&hq=%22kings+arms%22+ealing&cid=9198300048874205196&ei=TXBCU6r2IoKqhAfJioHIBQ&ved=0COIBEPwSMBg

And I've found Christ Church (Uxbridge rd) on the old map.

But none of the terraces appear.

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Re: The mean streets of Ealing, 1861
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 April 14 10:51 BST (UK) »
On the old map (1867 6 inch), just above the large word "Ealing" are a couple of roads running West-East.

These are (from north to south) The Grove and Grange Road.
The road running north-south, from the western end of those roads, is Ealing Green, which runs into St Mary's Road.

Victoria Terrace is on Ealing Green, just south of the junction with The Grove next to the Congregational Chapel (I have friends who live there!).


Christ Church is still there, junction of High Street, The Broadway, Spring Hill Road.


I've drunk at the King's Arms a few times!!  ;D ;D
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Re: The mean streets of Ealing, 1861
« Reply #3 on: Monday 07 April 14 10:57 BST (UK) »
On the old map (1867 6 inch), just above the large word "Ealing" are a couple of roads running West-East.

These are (from north to south) The Grove and Grange Road.
The road running north-south, from the western end of those roads, is Ealing Green, which runs into St Mary's Road.

Victoria Terrace is on Ealing Green, just south of the junction with The Grove next to the Congregational Chapel (I have friends who live there!).

Ah - excellent data, thank you.

So the six inch old map is simply not detailed enough to show the names I seek.

My Database may have to get by on a more approximate lat/long than I normally manage, unless I find a more detailed old map.

Thank you again for a useful data point.

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Re: The mean streets of Ealing, 1861
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 April 14 11:00 BST (UK) »
Did you zoom in?

Don't think that the Terraces show up?

There is a Forester Inn on Leighton Road?
To the west of Walpole Park and Lammas Park.
Also a Lancaster Road towards Southall, running north from Uxbridge Road.


EDIT: there is mention of Ealing House in this document:
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=22578
(about half-way down)
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