birth and marriage look up please

[outlaw]

hello
sorry i havnt been on here for a few years so not sure if i'm posting this on the right topic

i am returning to my research to fill in some gaps.

i am trying to find a birth record for stephen james baker born 1847 croydon surrey

and a marriage for his parents james baker born 1823 glynde sussex and amy born 1819 kingston surrey.

i have found them all on all the censuses but would like to order birth and marriage certs

any help greatly received

paula

[KGarrad]

Possible marriage:
December qtr 1846
Tonbridge district    vol 5, page 749

Baker, James
+ and on the same page +
Wing, Amy

[outlaw]

thanks,have seen this one but not sure if its them,really need to find stephens birth cert first to find out mothers maiden name,i might order it anyway  getting desperate been looking for this couples wedding for years now 

[KGarrad]

Reckon you might need to visit Surrey History Centre?

St John the Baptist, Ancient Parish, and St James, Croydon Common were the 2 churches active at the time of his birth.

Parish Registers are at Surrey History Centre.
It's possible that his birth wasn't registered (GRO)?


THat marriage is the only James Baker to an Amy that I can find?

[jan57]

Amy Wing

Record Type:
Baptism

Baptism Date:
14 May 1820

Father's Name:
William Hitcher Wing

Mother's name:
Jemima Wing


Kingston Upon Thames All Saints

  1841 An Amy  Wing   born not  in county   is  a  servant  in  Washlingstone  Tonbridge RD Kent  an  online tree  has her on  it  , with James  Baker ,  and  2  of the  children are  a Jemima  and William

 I  can't see a birth on Free BMD for Stephen ,   though  at that  time , (as you  may  know )  it wasn't compulsory  to  register births 

[outlaw]

brilliant  thank you jan57

where did you find this ?

i thought it was compulsory to register births after 1837,when was it made compulsory?

very interested in the name wing now obviously not an english name,but english first names.

[Marmalady]

i thought it was compulsory to register births after 1837,when was it made compulsory?

very interested in the name wing now obviously not an english name,but english first names.

Registration was introduced in 1837, but it was the Registrars job to obtain the details of the birth. If the parents didnt come forward with the information, many births were missed --particularly in the big cities

Compulsory registration didnt start till around the mid 1870's from memory


What makes you think "Wing" isnt an english name? Sounds very english to me!

[jan57]

brilliant  thank you jan57

where did you find this ?

i thought it was compulsory to register births after 1837,when was it made compulsory?

very interested in the name wing now obviously not an english name,but english first names.

 Registration  of  Births  started   in  1837,   but    it  wasn't  till  1874/5  I  think ,( not too sure  exact  year) that   they  began to  impose fines  on  people who  didn't  register ,   up  till  then there were   people that  thought  as  long  as a  child was baptised  that  would do

 Ancestry   is where I found   1841    info    and Baptism record  for Amy 

[outlaw]

thank you jan57
i had looked on ancestry,think i need to brush up on my research skills,havnt done this for a few years