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Help me find Mary Ellen Dwyer and her family in the English Cenus
« on: Friday 25 July 14 21:23 BST (UK) »
Hi
Would appreciate your help on this one.

Looking for Mary Ellen Dwyer in any of the English census prior to 1911

This is Mary Ellen in the Irish 1911 census aged 34  http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Carlow/Bagenalstown_Rural/Kilcarrig/308873/

Possible fathers names James b 1853, Michael b 1856
Father born Carlow, Ireland.

Regards and thanks
Genseacher
Byrne - Wexford
Carey - Dublin
Clifford - Dublin
Dwyer - Carlow and Wicklow
May - Dublin
Moore - Dublin
Noctor/Naughter - Wexford tarahill
Rooney - Dublin
Rossiter - Wexford
Wafer - Wexford and Dublin
Whelan - Carlow

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Re: Help me find Mary Ellen Dwyer and her family in the English Cenus
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 July 14 22:44 BST (UK) »
If her parents were Stephen & Lizzie then she is in Liverpool in 1881.
Census ref: RG11/3609/18/29
Crackett, Cracket, Webb, Turner, Henderson, Murray, Carr, Stavers, Thornton, Oliver, Davis, Hall, Anderson, Atknin, Austin, Bainbridge, Beach, Bullman, Charlton, Chator, Corbett, Corsall, Coxon, Davis, Dinnin, Dow, Farside, Fitton, Garden, Geddes, Gowans, Harmsworth, Hedderweek, Heron, Hedley, Hunter, Ironside, Jameson, Johnson, Laidler, Leck, Mason, Miller, Milne, Nesbitt, Newton, Parkinson, Piery, Prudow, Reay, Reed, Read, Reid, Robinson, Ruddiman, Smith, Tait, Thompson, Watson, Wilson, Youn

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Re: Help me find Mary Ellen Dwyer and her family in the English Cenus
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 July 14 22:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Craclyn

No its not Stephen as he is too old . Possible father of Mary Ellen, earliest dob can only be from 1853 onwards.

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Genseacher
Byrne - Wexford
Carey - Dublin
Clifford - Dublin
Dwyer - Carlow and Wicklow
May - Dublin
Moore - Dublin
Noctor/Naughter - Wexford tarahill
Rooney - Dublin
Rossiter - Wexford
Wafer - Wexford and Dublin
Whelan - Carlow

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Re: Help me find Mary Ellen Dwyer and her family in the English Cenus
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 July 14 23:05 BST (UK) »
There are 3 possible births to look at (at least!):

December qtr 1876
Stoke on Trent district     vol 6b, page 261
Dwyer, Mary Ellen

December qtr 1877
West Derby district    vol 8b, page 413
Dwyer, Mary Ellen

December qtr 1877
Liverpool district    vol 8b, page 98
Dwyer, Mary Ellen


The 2 born December qtr 1877 wouldn't have their 34th birthdays until October-December 1911, so I reckon they are out?!

Which leaves the Stoke-on-Trent Mary Ellen! ;D
She would have been 34 in October-December 1910, and therefore still 34 when the census was taken?
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Re: Help me find Mary Ellen Dwyer and her family in the English Cenus
« Reply #4 on: Friday 25 July 14 23:14 BST (UK) »
Scratch that!! ;D

Staffordshire Mary Ellen died at 1 year old! :-\
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Re: Help me find Mary Ellen Dwyer and her family in the English Cenus
« Reply #5 on: Friday 25 July 14 23:36 BST (UK) »
Having read this and your other posts I am a little confused about what you already know and what is the starting point for your various questions. Still not sure how you know that Mary Ellenīs father is one of the two you mentioned.
Crackett, Cracket, Webb, Turner, Henderson, Murray, Carr, Stavers, Thornton, Oliver, Davis, Hall, Anderson, Atknin, Austin, Bainbridge, Beach, Bullman, Charlton, Chator, Corbett, Corsall, Coxon, Davis, Dinnin, Dow, Farside, Fitton, Garden, Geddes, Gowans, Harmsworth, Hedderweek, Heron, Hedley, Hunter, Ironside, Jameson, Johnson, Laidler, Leck, Mason, Miller, Milne, Nesbitt, Newton, Parkinson, Piery, Prudow, Reay, Reed, Read, Reid, Robinson, Ruddiman, Smith, Tait, Thompson, Watson, Wilson, Youn

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Re: Help me find Mary Ellen Dwyer and her family in the English Cenus
« Reply #6 on: Friday 25 July 14 23:54 BST (UK) »
Hi

The Mary Ellen Dwyer aged 34 on 1911 irish census, her aunts are Bridget and Mary Dwyer as listed.

Of the male siblings of Bridget and Mary Dwyer only 2 males can be Mary Ellen's father that is James Dwyer b 1853 and Michael Dwyer b 1856, the next male sibling was born 1865, he's too young to be Mary Ellen's father.

I have tried searching the census myself but I just thought that a fresh pair of eyes/someone who is used to searching the English census might come up with possible families of Mary Ellen Dwyer.

Regards and thanks
Genseacher
Byrne - Wexford
Carey - Dublin
Clifford - Dublin
Dwyer - Carlow and Wicklow
May - Dublin
Moore - Dublin
Noctor/Naughter - Wexford tarahill
Rooney - Dublin
Rossiter - Wexford
Wafer - Wexford and Dublin
Whelan - Carlow

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Re: Help me find Mary Ellen Dwyer and her family in the English Cenus
« Reply #7 on: Friday 25 July 14 23:59 BST (UK) »
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Re: Help me find Mary Ellen Dwyer and her family in the English Cenus
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 26 July 14 00:06 BST (UK) »
On the 1881 census, there are 2 possibilities - neither with a father at home?

Class: RG11; Piece: 3683; Folio: 95; Page: 53
221 Commercial Road, Kirkdale, Liverpool

Dwyer, Catherine  Wife  Married  F  32  Mariner's Wife  b Ireland
Dwyer, Mary  Daughter  F  3  b Liverpool
Dwyer, Patrick  Son  M  1  b Liverpool


Class: RG11; Piece: 3715; Folio: 90; Page: 23
7 Barkers Row, West Derby, Lancashire

Dwyer, Ellen  Head  Married  F  23  Wife of Soldier Abroad  b Knotty Ash
Dwyer, James  Son  M  6  Scholar  b Old Swan, Lancashire
Dwyer, Mary  Daughter  F  4  Scholar  b Old Swan, Lancashire
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