Brown Family Boot and Shoemakers, Birkinhead

[suzard]

the girls are on 1891 census
1891
83 Grange Rd Birkenhead Cheshire
John Brown Head M 44 Bottmaker Ireland
Ann wife M 43 Ireland
Anne daughter S 21 Assistant Schoolmistress Chester Cheshire
Mary daughter S 20 Bootmachinist Chester
John W son 15 Bootmakers apprentice Chester
James McKenna Boarder M 47 labourer in Shipyard Ireland
Margaret McKenna Boarder M 46 Liverpool Lancs
RG12 2883 85 24

Suz

[heywood]

In 1871, John is 24 yrs born abt 1847 and baby Ann is 20 months old.
That marriage would then seem a bit too early 

[heywood]

There is a fairly detailed tree - presumably yours Paul? It has baptism details for John in Oldcastle, Meath.

It looks as though you need a birth certificate for one of the children to get Anne's maiden name.

[suzard]

In 1881 daughter Mary has the middle initial J - so was she Mary Jane???
With a surname like Brown you need to post as much detail as you have

1881
83 Grange Lane Birkenhead Cheshire
John Brown Head M 36 Boot Dealer Ireland
Ann wife 36 Ireland
Ann daughter 11 scholar Birkenhead
Mary J daughter 10 scholar Birkenhead
John W son 5 scholar Birkenhead
William Dearing Boarder U Bootmaker ireland
Thomas brown Boarder U 20 Ireland
Ann Brown servant U 20 Ireland
Denni Maloy Boarder U 34 Bootmaker Ireland
RG11 357 9 117 13

Suz

[suzard]

In 1871, John is 24 yrs born abt 1847 and baby Ann is 20 months old.
That marriage would then seem a bit too early 

Information on 1911 census puts marriage c.1862/3

Suz

[heywood]

Suzard,

All the various census info is in the tree which looks to be owned by Paul. The main thing missing is Anne's maiden name so investing in a certificate or finding a marriage seems to be the way forward for Paul.

Heywood

[heywood]

In 1871, John is 24 yrs born abt 1847 and baby Ann is 20 months old.
That marriage would then seem a bit too early 

Information on 1911 census puts marriage c.1862/3

Suz

Worth a certificate then  . Perhaps there were children before Ann. Paul perhaps got the marriage date from 1911.

[PaulBrowne]

I'm a relative beginner at this and I really appreciate the time and efforts. I'm not naive in thinking I can find out specifics but ultimately I guess I'd love to garner all the info and trace living relatives. Thanks all. The great reputation of Chesire folk is very accurate!

[suzard]

There are some ill researched trees on this family on A******y

Eliza White is put as a daughter

Think you really need to get one of the children's birth certs for Anne's maiden name .

And daughter Mary -was she Mary or Mary J - there is another Mary Brown b c same time so an extra name could be helpful to make certain you have the correct Mary

Suz