LESEBERG & BRUNKE

[spices]

I am trying to find the emigration record for my husbands maternal 2nd Gt Grand Parents
Louis LESEBERG b 1826 at Salzgitter Germany Parents August LESEBERG and Sophia MARHEINE.
Married Caroline BRUNKE 1851 Salzgitter Germany. Parents Christopher BRUNKE & Magdaline FROST.
They had 3 children in Germany
Elizabeth 1851/52
Frederick 1853
Louis  1855  then there were 5 more children born in Australia.
sadly Frederick & Louis drowned in The Indigo Creek Victoria in 1867'

They would have emigrated  between 1855 - 1858 as forth child August was born in Australia 1858.
I have found a Caroline LESEBERG arriving in Melbourne July 1857 on the Eagle Speed departing from Liverpool. HOWEVER the microfiche says she was 29 and a Spinster.

On Far North QLD pioneer & settlers reg there are other BRUNKE'S
BRUNKE Augusta b c1835 Salzgitter  parents Carle & Magdalena FROST.
She came to Melbourne age 20 1855 on the Iserbrook
I think she might be Caroline's sister/ relation

Thanks Spices

[Aussie1947]

Hi Spices,

Had a look at the Qld Gazettes and other resources and I couldn't see any info on Louis Leseberg being in Queensland, a Heinrich Leseberg arrived in Qld in 1854.

There was outstanding mail being held at the Melbourne GPO in April 1858 for Louis.

Gerry

[spices]

Hi Spices,

Had a look at the Qld Gazettes and other resources and I couldn't see any info on Louis Leseberg being in Queensland, a Heinrich Leseberg arrived in Qld in 1854.

There was outstanding mail being held at the Melbourne GPO in April 1858 for Louis.

Gerry

Hi Spices,

Had a look at the Qld Gazettes and other resources and I couldn't see any info on Louis Leseberg being in Queensland, a Heinrich Leseberg arrived in Qld in 1854.

There was outstanding mail being held at the Melbourne GPO in April 1858 for Louis.

Gerry


Thanks Gerry, I don't think Louis arrived in QLD He lived 25yrs in Victoria. I noticed other arrivals with the ? same family links went there.
Died May 1880 age 54 - buried Barnawartha cemetery  site unknown.
occupation Hotel Keeper.
Hotel The Farmers Arms  area now known as Browns Plains.
The hotel was deprived of its licence on 31/12/1913 Carolyn was still listed as owner.
Carolyn died 1889 age 64 also buried Barnawartha cemetery. She lived in Victoria 32 years and was listed as housewife.
Gerry how did you find out about the outstanding mail?
I wonder if we can still claim it -- might answer some questions.

Interesting we still have Christmas lunch at The Farmers Arms .

Spices

[spices]

OOPS not sure what I did there

Spices

[Aussie1947]

It was usual for the Colonial Governments to place in the Government Gazettes on a regular basis  lists of names with outstanding mail being retained at the GPO.  This can sometmes be an indicator when a person arrived in a Colony, but they also could just be on the move as well.

While researching my Victorian families yesterday I hd access to the Victorian Government Gazettes and did a global search on Louis Leseberg and the earliest reference was the April 1858 with outstanding mail.

Sad about the 14 and 15 year old boys drowing in Indigo Creek, did you get a copy of the inquest.

Gerry

[spices]

Hi Gerry,
My husbands aunt has a copy of the Inquest.
Caroline LESEBERG stated  " on Saturday  last the second instant between 3 & 4 o'clock I sent them to get some bark for baking, with Charles LESEBERG b 1861 Charles came back & said that Frederick & Louis had gone down for a swim and he thought they were drowned. I ran down to the creek but could see nothing of the deceased"

Sadly a 3rd child drowned.
Extract from the inquest into the death of August LESEBERG held October 22 1859 at Chiltern Victoria. From Louise LESEBERG
'The day before yesterday the 21st, in the afternoon, I was working near here, my child came to me, a short time after the child was missing. I looked for it, I thought it must be drowned in a water hole, I took a pole and got the body out of the hole I thought it was in ....... It was 17 months old.
He was born May 21 1858 D October 21 1859.

Spices

[spices]

I have been told that if unclaimed  mail held at the GPO was from a Govt department there would be a record of this, possibly at PROV
Can anyone shed some light

[spices]

I have some new info which may help a RC help me with my search
Louis LESEBERG full name was
Johann Ludwig Adolph LESEBERG b July 1825 he was a musician in Salzgitter
he was married in the church Mariae Jakobi Salzgitter January 1851
 The info that I now have Caroline BRUNKE mothers name Magdalene TROST not FROST
Her father Christoph BRUNKE was also a musician.

I do not know which state they emigrated into. They did go to Woolshed Vic.--near Beechworth
then to Browns Plains -near Rutherglen Vic.

Spices

[cando]

May I suggest that Caroline LESEBERG on the shipping list is likely your relative.  There are no further records for a person of that name on the indexes other than the wife of Louis LESEBERG.  Shipping lists are full of errors and as information was given orally most of the errors were caused by accents and illiteracy ie some people didn't know how to spell their names and many didn't know their true ages. 

LESEBERG Caroline  29 years arrived July 1857 on the EAGLE SPEED Port B 128/007

There is also this record but I note there are LESEBERG's in NSW.
http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/keyname.aspx
LESEBERG Mr, Mrs    on the WARATAH    P   8 Aug 1855   Origin Port Melbourne   Sydney Morning Herald

According to the indexes, and mentioned by you, a child, August, was born at Woolshed, Vic in 1858.

Caroline's death registration in 1889 states she was 64 years ie born c1825.  As her husband pre-deceased her in 1880 I wonder who was the informant and how accurate was the information.  Her age would be on the birth certificates of children born in Victoria.

According to the indexes, and mentioned by you, a child, August, was born at Woolshed, Vic in 1858.

Do you have husband Louis' and Caroline's death certificates?   The writing in the registers is at times, difficult to decipher and there may have simply been an error with Caroline's mother's maiden name.

Cando