NSW birth -- David E J DAVIES: look-up please!

[CelticAnnie]

Was rather shocked to discover the following transcription from the Australia Birth Index 1788-1922 on Ancestry -- we believed we knew a lot about this side of the family, but we had never encountered the existence of this individual before!

This is how Ancestry have transcribed it:

Name:                         David E J Davies
Birth date:                   1856
Father's name:             Owen Davies
Mother's name:            Jane
Birthplace:                   New South Wales
Registration year:         1856
Registration place:        Paddington, New South Wales
Registration number:    2445

Is there anyone out there with access to copy of the original birth record who could kindly, first, confirm that Ancestry have transcribed it correctly, and secondly, is there any additional information available on the original about this birth?

Many thanks for reading this.

CELTICANNIE

[giblet]

Hi,

There appears to be 2 births for Owen and Jane.

V18541297 40/1854    DAVIES    OWEN B M   father OWEN   mother  JANE        
2445/1856    DAVIES    DAVID E J     father OWEN    mother JANE    PADDINGTON 

What appears to maybe be the parents marriage

V1854638 81/1854    DAVIES    OWEN    MC LEAN    JANE    QC

[giblet]

V18541297 40/1854    DAVIES    OWEN B M   father OWEN   mother  JANE        

Owen Edward Mytton Davies
Christening Date    13 Dec 1854
Birth Date    10 Nov 1854
Birthplace    NEW SOUTH WALES, AUSTRALIA
Father's Name   Owen Davies
Mother's Name   Jane

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTHV-WGZ

[giblet]

Who appears to be Owen jnr in 1871 UK census

Owen E M Davies
Age    16
Scholar
Birthplace    Sidney, Australia
Schedule Type    Institution
Registration District    Easthampstead
Sub-District    Sandhurst
Parish    Sandhurst
County    Berkshire

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VFX5-QHK

[CelticAnnie]

Thank you for your trouble, Giblet -- yes; this is indeed "my lot"!  I do already know quite a bit about them them -- it is just this David E J who has suddenly (and to our considerable surprise) 'popped up' who is causing us curiousity and concern. Given how much we know about the rest of them, it just seems very odd that we never encountered David before.

Do I take it, then, that the original record shows nothing beyond what Ancestry have transcribed?

CELTICANNIE

[giblet]

Im having trouble finding anything on David E J 

If you have a great deal of information already a birth certificate may not show you anything new that you dont already have. There is a link somewhere that has what information would/should be on the cert for that era. I'll see if i can find it.

edited to add

http://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html

[CelticAnnie]

Thanks for the link Giblet -- this looks helpful.  As you say, I think we'll have to get a copy of the birth certificate which it seems may at least show wife's maiden name.  An old Pedigree (published in UK in 1857) states that Owen and Jane had a daughter, Mary Constance, born 1st November 1856; and it seems odd that David should have been born to them, apparently, also in 1856 -- and not been mentioned in this pedigree when Mary (a 'mere' female) was.  I've also not been able to find any mention of Mary in the Australia Birth Index.    But she definitely existed!

All very strange.

CELTICANNIE

[sparrett]

To know more about the birth you would need to make a certificate purchase.
A less expensive alternative to ordering a copy of the original is through a Transcription Agent


http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/bdm_fh.html#transcription

Here is a link to what you may find on
Australian certificates-

http://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html

Sue

[wivenhoe]

Empire 14 Nov 1854
BIRTHS........ On the 10th instant, at Port View House, Paddington, the wife of Owen Davies, Esq., 11th Regiment, of a son.


Sydney Morning Herald 3 Nov 1856
BIRTHS. On the 1st November, at Port View House, Paddington, the wife of Owen Davies, Esq., 11th Regiment, of a daughter.