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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Montgomeryshire => Wales => Montgomeryshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: homeguard on Friday 11 January 08 13:07 GMT (UK)
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Hi, I am trying to find out any information, so far with no luck, of Lucy Mary Sellitlee or Gellitlee, who on a later census when she was married [1887], gives her place of birth as Welshpool Montgomery. Have been unable to find her on 1881 census so I am hoping that she may turn up on the 61 or 71. From the census she was born around 1858/59, any help at all would be appreciated
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Hi Homeguard
Are you sure she wasnt married before as on the 1881 is this
Alfred A Gillitlee head mar 32 surgeon Salop Brdgenorth
Lucy M " wife mar 25 Mont Welshpool
Maud M.G.? " dau u/m 3 Salop Pontesbury?
George A E " son u/m 2 "
plus 3 servants
living at White Lace?, Pontesbury, Salop
Rg11/ 2643
folio 12
page 15
ricky
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Looks like she was.....
Marriages Sep 1875
Eddowes Lucy Mary Forden 11b 303
Gillitlie Alfred Allen Forden 11b 303
Cas
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1861 - RG9; Piece: 4258; Folio: 3; Page: 3
Broad street - Civil Parish/Township of Pool, Welshpool Montgomeryshire
All children of couple all born Welshpool
James Eddowes 48 ironmonger
Ann Eddowes 39
Jas Olwor Eddowes 12
William Eddowes 10
George Eddowes 9
Lucy Mary Eddowes 7 dau, Welshpool, Montgomeryshire
Charles Eddowes 5
Edward Eddowes 3
Johis Eddowes 2
Robert Baugh 21 serv ironmongers assistant
Elizabeth Evans 16 serv
Williams Higgins 16 serv ironmongers app
Mary Jones 22 serv
Cas
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Hi Cas
Had seen that, if it is all correct
this could be her on the 1861
James Eddowes head mar 48 iron monger Salop wothern?
Ann " wife mar 39 Mont Welshpool
Jas Oliver? " son u/m 12 scholar "
William " son u/m 10 " "
George " son u/m 9 " "
Charles " son u/m 5 " "
Lucy Mar " dau u/m 7 " "
Edward " son u/m 3 "
John " son u/m 2 "
plus 4 servants
living at Broad Street, Welshpool, Montgomeryshire
Rg9/ 4258
folio 3
page 3
ricky
Only prob is the age is out
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Hi Ricky, ditto....went to '61 thought you would check 1871 first, and did not want us both to duplicate,
You check 1871? I will look BVRI for baptism in Forden...
update....only 2 for Mont. mother Fanny no father, none Lucy, will see what's on IGI if any....brb
Cas :)
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Hi found this death
Alfred Allen Gillitlie
born 1849 ish
died 1885
aged 36
Sept quarter
Atcham
Montgomeryshire, Salop
vol 6a
page 385
ricky
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Nothing for IGI, it looks like it fits...wonder if she lied about her age to 2nd husband?
Births Dec 1853
EDDOWES Lucy Ann Montgomery 11b 212 (right reg district for '61 and Welshpool)
Just noticed it's Lucy Ann here ..............hhhmmm, still checking for mistrans...
Cannot find another Lucy....
Cas
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Found some of them on the 1871
Anne Eddowes head wid 47 ironmonger Monts Welshpool
James O " son u/m 22 " "
Amelia " dau u/m 21 "
William " son u/m 20 articled clerk solictor "
Charles " son u/m 15 apprentice "
Edward E " son u/m 13 scholar "
John " son u/m 12 " "
Anne Williams serv u/m 16 dom serv "
living at 31 Broad Street, Welshpool, Montgomeryshire
Rg10/ 5624
folio 45
page 17
ricky
wonder where Amelia came from ??? ???
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Amelia.... is daughter on '51
Will see if I can find Lucy 1871, could be in Salop?
Cas
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Amelia.... is daughter on '51
Will see if I can find Lucy 1871, could be in Salop?
Cas
;D ;D ;D
yep
ricky
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Hi Cas
I be jiggered if I can see her on the 1871 ??? ???
ricky
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Not having much luck with Lucy in 1871 ???
Gotta go soon...schoolrun, granddaughter
ditto Rick ??? found a Lucy Elizabeth sister to Edward in Salop, but don't think that's her...
Cas
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Only thing I can suggest is get 2nd marriage cert you have ref for and see if it gives any more light on age, maiden name, father?
Marriages Mar 1887 (same page)
Sellitlee Lucy Mary Forden 11b 238
GELLITLEE Lucy Mary Forden 11b 238
LYSTER Arthur Edward Forden 11b 238
Cas
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Hi Cas
I think you right the marriage cert would help, I carnt see her on the 1871
regards
ricky
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have found little Maud Gillitlie on the 1891
Maud Gillitlie pupil u/m 13 salop Pontesbury
living at Howells Orphan School, Denbigh, Denbighshire
Rg12/ 4629
folio 49
page 16
ricky
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1901
this is interesting
Arthur E Lyster head mar 41 medical practioner British India
Lucy M " wife mar 43 Montgomeryshire Welshpool
Maud Gillitlie step/dau u/m 22 Salop Pontesbury
Gladys Gillitlie step/dau u/m 20 "
Dorothy Lyster dau u/m 10 Derbys? Long Eaton
Lionel " son u/m 7 "
Phyllis " dau u/m 6 "
Ellen Leonard serv u/m 27 cook domestic Suffolk Werbrow?
Annie Bone serv u/m 19 housemaid Essex E Hanningfield?
living at The Yews, Great Baddow, Essex
Rg13/ 1674
folio 85
page 5
ricky
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1891, RG12; Piece: 2723; Folio 131; Page 15 - Long Eaton Derbyshire
Arthur Edward Lyster 29 Medical general practioner, East India , British subject
Lucy Mary Lyster 32 wife Welshpool Mont.
George Alfred Gilliffe 12 stepson, Pontesbury, Shropshire
Gladys Gilliffe 9 stepdau, Pontesbury, Shropshire
Arthur Linnelys George Lyster 2 son, Warwick Colehill
Ronald Grey Lyster 1 son, Long Eaton Derbyshire
Dorothy Lyster 1mth dau, Long Eaton Derbyshire
Sarah Ann Toole 22 serv
Rose Hannah Lakin 18 serv
Some/same children as 1881 also a match to 1901, Ricky found, this must be the same woman, but she cannot decide on her age....
Cas
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Thanks for the kind help, it has helped to explain alot of unknowns, I think the different spelling of the surname did`nt help ! Will try and piece what`s been found together, thanks again for your help.
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Hi Homeguard
your welcome, hope its what you want
regards
ricky
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Hello,
I believe I have the information that you are looking for. I am a direct and living relative of both, Mary Lucy and Alfred Gillitlie
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Please get in touch with me. I have all the informatiom you are looking or on Lucy Mary, for she is related to me,