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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Wiltshire => Topic started by: Hazzy on Sunday 29 April 07 09:04 BST (UK)
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I'm trying to find out what happened to an Emily Shears and who her parents were.
She was born on 23 Nov 1876.
She appears in my family Bible under the children of David & Martha Lang. But they married in 1881.
Martha was born a Bell and lived in the same street as the Shears family.
In the 1881 census, Emily Shears was living with her grandparents Charles and Fanny bell, also there son Charles Bell.
I do know Maria Bell married Charles Shears, and was in a lunatic asylum in 1881, so it could have been her child. But that doesn't make sense to why she would appear in my family Bible. I'm thinking perhaps Martha had Emily with one of the Shears boys out of wedlock, before she married David Lang.
I have no record of her since then, so would love to know the answers.
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Elizabeth Emily Shears born 1878 march quarter Wimborne Dorset 5a 291
Emily Shears march quarter 1877 Amesbury Wiltshire 5a 185
you have 3 months to register child
You will have these I presume
Lots of Shears here
All The Common
1861 RG9/1313 folio 9 page 16 Winterslow Wiltshire
William Shears age 50 Winterlow Wiltshire
Maria age 51 Salisbury Wiltshire
Maria age 12 Winteslow Wiltshire
next page
Edwin C Shears age 6 son Winterslow
Sarah Childs dau married age 28 Milkers wife Winteslow
Mary A Childs grandson age 4 Winterslow
Next Door
Charles bell age 50 Hawker all born Winterslow
Fanny age 47
Caroline dau age 26 serv
Uriah son age 11
Jane dau age 10
Maria dau age 7
Martha dau age 5
Charles son age 1
Next door
Henry Shears age 31 Woodman Winteslow
Martha age 29 Wilton
Harriet age 9 rest born Winteslow
Andrew age 6
Gale age 5
Lot age 2
Infant dau age 3 days
next door
James Shears age 52 widower Woodman all born Winteslow
Martha age 12 dau housekeeper
Constance dau age 9
James son age 7
next door
Charles Shears age 38 woodman all born Winteslow
Eliza age 30
John son age 8
next page
Isaac Shears age 49 Winterslow Wiltshire Woodman
Ann age 50 Broughton hants
Mary A Shears age 18 dau Winterslow
Martha dau age 13 Winterslow
Sarah dau age 11 Winterslow
Charles son age 9 Winterslow
Next Door
Charles Shears head age 66 winterslow
Sabina age 60 Worton
1891 Rg13/913 folio 65 page 36 St Mary Hampshire
36 Rockstone Lane
David Lang age 35 printer Compositor born Wimbourne Dorset
martha Lang age 36 all the rest born Southampton Hampshire
Florence age 9
Eva age 7
Christo son age 6
Wm Chas son age 11 months
1881
Millbrook Hampshire
Nelson Cottage
David Lang age 56 born Gardener Chelsea pens Ireland
Mary Lang age 57 Wimborne Dorset
David lang age 25 son Printer Compositor born Wimborne
Martha age 26 daughter in law Winteslow Wiltshire
1881
Charlie bell age 70 Hawker
Fanny age 67
Charlie son age 21 bricklayers lab
Emily shears age 4 born Winterslow Wiltshire grandaughter
1901 Rg13/1073 folio 100 page 31 Shirley Freemantle Hampshire
David Lang age 45 Printer compositor Wimborne Dorset
Martha age 46 Winterslow Wiltshire
Florence age 19 dress maker rest born Southampton Hampshire
Christopher age 16 Brass founder
William C age 10
Elsie M age 7
Violet C M age 5
Pam
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Thank you for all the information Pam.
I haven't been doing this very long, so only had some of the above.
Emily Shears march quarter 1877 Amesbury Wiltshire 5a 185
you have 3 months to register child
The above Emily, seems the obvious one. Those numbers on the end, is that all I need to order a birth certificate.
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All the informtion given you need to send for certificate.
Pam
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1871 Rg10/1947 folio 13 page 18 Winterslow Wiltshire
Lower Common
William Shears age 61 Copse lab Winterslow
Maria age 61 Winterslow
Edwin son age 16 Winterslow
George age 9 grandson Winterslow
down the page
James bell age 27 bricklayers lab Winterslow
Dianna age 23 bulford Wilts
Emily J age 2 Winterslow
Next Door
James Shears age 68 Copse lab Winterslow
Constant dau age 20 Housekeeper Winterslow
Next door
Charles Shears age 18?? Copse lab Winterslow
Elizabeth age 32?? Wilton
John son age 18 rest born Winterslow
Albert age 9
Frank age 7
Alfred son age 1
Herbert age 1 month
Next Page
Lower Common
Henry Shears age 40 copse lab all born Winterslow
Martha age 38
Harriet age 19 servant out of place
Andrew age 16 Lab
Gale age 14 Lab
Lot age 12 Lab
Eliza age 9
Linda age 8
Clara age 6
Michael age 4
julie Ann age 1
next door
Isaac Shears age 60 Copse lab Winterslow
Ann age 60 broughton Hants
charles age son age 19 copse lab Winterslow
next door
Charles Shears age age 76 copse lab Winterslow
Sabrina age 71 Worton
1871 RG10/1947 folio 18 page 27 Winterslow
Gunville
Jesse Shears age 45 head ag lab Winterslow
Mary age 47 hants
Robert T age 16 winterslow
Arthur age 13 Winterslow
Next page
Mary age 9 Winterslow
Ellen age 4 Winterslow
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Arnold Shears lodger age 22 all born Winterslow
Mary M age 20
Fred son age 7 months
RG10/1312 folio 126 page 39 Winterslow Wiltshire
Cottage
Benjamin Shears age 60 farm lab Winterslow
Margaret age 69 heston Middlesex
Rg10/1947 folio 13 page 17 Winterslow Wiltshire
Lower common
with the Collins
Betsy Shears age 26 unmarried lodger servant out of place Winterslow
Albert H Shears son age 7 winterslow
next door
Charles bell age 60
Fanny age 57
Charles age 11
1871 RG10/1947 folio 15 page 21 Winterslow Wiltshire
Thomas Collins age 50 all born Winterslow
Jane age 46
Matthew age 19 copse lab
Brice ?Shears age 21 visitor copse lab
Garston Lancashire RG10/3853 folio 79 page 38
48 St Marys Road
Charles Shears age 31 Hay Trusser born Winterslow
Ann wife age 38 Farmsfield notts Confectioner
John B Rogers age 7 step son liverpool Lanc
Charles E Shears age son 2 liverpool Lsnc
Ann M Shears dau age 5 months Garston Lanc
Sarah hulme servant
Eliza Noscoe boarder age 24
1871 RG10/1952 folio 34 page 19 East harnham Wiltshire
Looks like a work house
Charlotte Shears inmate age 21 born Winterslow
Pam
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Goodness, there are a lot of Shears in one street.
I wonder if the houses belong to a land owner, who these famillies work for.
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1871 Rg10/1241 folio 86 page 9 Grateley hampshire
5 Grateley station
Henry Jas Shears age 38 Fettler on Railway Winterslow
Annie age 38 all born Salisbury
Annie age 8
Mary Jane age 6
Harry age 3
James age 1
1871 Rg10/1956 folio 27 page 3 St Martin Wiltshire
Thomas Shears age 49 not sure of occupation Winterslow
Fanny age 50 winterslow
Richard Gaits age 27 lodger Winterslow
Thomas Woods lodger age 26 Bricklayer Worton
Thomas Porter lodger age 26 lab Salisbury
Pam
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Hi Hazzy
As a descendent of the Shears clan [my grandparents were John and Ann Shears] I would be grateful if you would share what you find from Emily's birth certificate. I find it difficult to understand why her birth was registered in Amesbury if she was born in Winterslow - I have the Winterslow parish register on loan and shall look in the next few weeks to she if she was baptized in Winterslow.
It is notable that neither Charles nor Maria Shears appear in the online version of the 1881 census provided by LDS, and, although these may be two of the many omissions from the LDS 1881, if these were Emily's parents it is therefore conceivable that Emily was an orphan. She was then taken in by her grandparents and then possibly adopted by her Aunt Martha [assuming Martha and Maria were sisters.
Re-your comment of a lot of Shears in one street. In fact it was an area at the eastern end of the village covering perhaps a few hundred yards, and I assume it comprised clusters of workmen's cottages on the estate of the land owner. The fact the many of the Shears, and indeed many others, were woodmen suggests that there was a large forest, which now seems to have gone.
The earliest documented Shears in Winterslow is William Shears who was married in 1637. From around 1700 onwards the family is well established, and my grandparents in the 1901 census lived probably within a few hundred yards or less of where their ancestors lived 200 hundred years earlier.
Good luck with your searches,
Colin
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Thank you Colin, for your reply.
I will indeed, let you know how I get on.
It's fascinating, finding out how they all lived, it's a shame it's not there anymore, as I wanted to go to Winterslow to have a look around.
I have so many in my family that lived in the same area, Bell, Green, Judd. By looking on the census and there neighbours, you realize how they continued to live in the same area, which I suppose is understandable in those days.
Hazel
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Hi Hazel
Don't give up on Winterslow, if you are in the area it is worth a visit. There is very little to see, but being able to put places to names does help you understand how the families and marriages fit together. I have been twice, but then I only live 75 miles away.
It is an isolated, widespread amorphpous area with no focal point. The church is on the extreme western edge and the common is on the eastern edge. There are two pubs and a village shop but I did not see any sites of interest. I found my great grandparents' graves and I would expect you to find graves of interest.
I see that you mention the Judds. Nearly everybody from Winterslow has a Judd ancestor. You should have fun tracing yours as there are about 300 Judd baptisms up to 1837.
Wiltshire Family History Society has published complete transcripts of baptisms and burials from the Winterslow parish register, and, if you are intent on tracing yours ancestors, the transcripts are well worth buying.
Happy hunting
Colin
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Thank you Colin for all the info. I'm not to far away, so think I will still pay a visit.
It's interesting about the parish records. Can you give me the information, as to were I can purchase these transcriptions. Save going to the Wiltshire records office.
Hazel
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Hi,
This might be Emily in 1901, transcribed as SHEAN, could be SHEARS :)
1901 RG13/1853 f.33 p.2 Southampton St. Mary, Hampshire
1A Avenue
Alfred WILKINS Head M 66 Living on own means Berks Reading
Annie " " Wife M 44 Hants Southampton
Emily SHEARS? Servant S 24 General Servant (Domestic) Wilts Winterton?
If she is living in Southampton then I found this possible marriage,
Emily SHEARS Jun Q 1901 Southampton v.2c p.30
other names on page;
Dorothy ENGLISH
Walter JOHNSON
Walter Jabez OLIVER
Regards
Daisy
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Thank you daisy. It could well be her.
I've just sent of for the certificate, as I found out on the 1881 census that Charles Shears was living in the Amesbury area then, so it's quite feasible she was registered there and he could be the father. I've also found out he had another daughter called Rose. She appears to live with Issac Shears in 1881 then with her father, back with the rest of the family in 1891, but no sign of Emily.
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Hi Hazel
I have at last worked out the Amesbury connection. Amesbury is the registration district for Idmiston. In the 1881 census your Charles Shears is shown living No. 7 Idmiston therefore births there would appear as Amesbury. But where Charles was living was in the detached parish of Idmiston which lies within Winterslow. It is the area or road now called the Shripple, which you will see when you visit Winterslow is just round the corner from Gunville Hill and the Common is at the other end of Gunville Hill. If you look in the 1881 census the next street to Idmiston you will find is Gunville.
So in 1881, Charles was living in the family home and his daughters were each living with the two sets of grandparents, and they were all within a few hundred yards of each other.
To buy the Winterslow parish register transcripts, go to WWW.wiltshirefhs.co.uk. 'Parish registers' is in the options list on the left hand side.
Daisy's comment re: Shears and Shean is entirely feasible because I have had exactly the same problem
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Thats really interesting Colin.
It's all starting to make sense now. Lets hope the certificate, can prove it all.
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We have a result, thanks to down-under.
I have just received the birth certificate.
Colin you were right, you had worked it all out.
Mother, Maria Bell, married to Charles Shears occupation Woodman. Lived at Shripple Isdmiston.
Just don't know what happened to her after 1881. I wonder if my Great Grandmother did addopt her, else I can't understand the entry in the family bible.
She could have also died young.
Still I'm pleased I found out her parents.
Hazel
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Dear Hazel
Thank you so much for the information. It is fascinating how the families from around the Common fit together. My current confusion is 'why isn't Emily's baptism in the parish register for All Saints?'. It is possible that she was baptized in Idmiston, but people from the Shripple have been baptized in Winterslow since 1700 or earlier.
I think Daisy's reply probably explains what happened to Emily. This was very interesting to me, because my grandmother Sally Ann Shears, who was also born in 1877, turned up in the 1901 census as a servant in Monmouthshire. May be there was a recruitment agency specializing in recruiting 'country girls' as, probably lowly paid, servants.
At the moment I have started to transcribe some of the Shears entries after 1837 from the Winterslow parish register. I shall be interested to see where Emily fits into my tree.
Good luck
Colin
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Hello, just reading this old thread. Charles Shears had a son called John Shears b 1853, I believe he was my Great grandfather. Married Ann Pressley b 1852. They had 13 children my grandmother Daisy was the youngest. I think they lived on a smallholding as I remember my grandmother telling me she had to look after the bees. She won a scholarship to a university in the early 1900s (not sure the year) she was not allowed to take up the scholarship due to having to look after her disabled mum Ann. Most of my grandmothers siblings had died by the time she told me about them. She had relatives in America I assume from Sidney her brother who moved there. I always remember my grandmother had a saying to describe someone not very nice 'Twas ever the devil looked out of someones face twas hers' I believe this was a reference to Lyddy Shears who was a relative. (can't trace this) My grandmother used old country speak. My grandmother married Reginald Cooper and they had a daughter called Miriam. The daughter was supposed to be called Madeliene but Reginald had too many drinks with the birth registrar, he knew it should have been a biblical name but that was all. Daisy was furious he registered the wrong name. Daisy was super sharp and super intelligent. It has been wonderful to see how many shears there were. thank you for the extra info
Dear Hazel
Thank you so much for the information. It is fascinating how the families from around the Common fit together. My current confusion is 'why isn't Emily's baptism in the parish register for All Saints?'. It is possible that she was baptized in Idmiston, but people from the Shripple have been baptized in Winterslow since 1700 or earlier.
I think Daisy's reply probably explains what happened to Emily. This was very interesting to me, because my grandmother Sally Ann Shears, who was also born in 1877, turned up in the 1901 census as a servant in Monmouthshire. May be there was a recruitment agency specializing in recruiting 'country girls' as, probably lowly paid, servants.
At the moment I have started to transcribe some of the Shears entries after 1837 from the Winterslow parish register. I shall be interested to see where Emily fits into my tree.
Good luck
Colin