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Birth Records Newry - COWAN
« on: Wednesday 21 September 05 22:06 BST (UK) »
Also looking for James COWAN who was born in Newry between 1846 - 1850
(various ages given on later censuses).
Married Harriet ? from Dublin but not sure if that was in Ireland.
He was a Blacksmith and later lived in Liverpool.
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Re: Birth Records Newry - COWAN
« Reply #1 on: Monday 26 September 05 20:37 BST (UK) »
Hi

Newry 1852

James Cowan Grocer & Spirit Dealer 39 Water St.

Could be his Father?



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Re: Birth Records Newry - COWAN
« Reply #2 on: Friday 19 October 07 00:42 BST (UK) »
Hello paxisnz,

I'm on a part time course at the Ulster University in York Street, Belfast. One of the other people on the course is looking for families named Cowan and Nummey (Nummy).

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Re: Birth Records Newry - COWAN
« Reply #3 on: Friday 14 December 07 08:55 GMT (UK) »
Some other sources for Cowan, Nummey, Nummy
From www. www.bagenalscastle.com/ancestry/
Source Number of Results
Flaxgrowers' List > 1
Householders' Index > 10
Newry householders, British Parliamentary Papers > 2
Crossle Papers > 1
Newry Town Agricultural Census 1803 (D/654/A2/29) > 7
List of Voters for Newry 1868 > 1
Newry Directory 1900 > 4
Calendar of Wills Newry > 3

You searched for "" "Nummey"

Source Number of Results
Householders' Index > 1

You searched for "" "nummy"

Source Number of Results
Householders' Index > 3
List of Voters for Newry 1868 > 4
Newry Directory 1900 > 1
 
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Re: Birth Records Newry - COWAN
« Reply #4 on: Friday 14 December 07 09:03 GMT (UK) »
A pay to view website, the UHF's www,ancestryireland.com has.
 
Type Surname Firstname Year Date Fathers Firstname Parish \ District County
Birth Record COWAN JAMES .    Co down
Birth Record COWAN JAMES .    Co down
Birth Record COWAN JAMES .    Co down
Birth Record COWAN JAMES 1819    Co down
Birth Record COWAN JAMES 1821    Co down
Births COWAN JAMES 1829    Antrim
Births COWAN JAMES 1829    Antrim
Birth Record COWAN JAMES 1829    Co down
Birth Record COWAN JAMES 1830    Co down
Birth Record COWAN JAMES 1842    Co down
Births COWAN JAMES 1844    Down
Birth Record COWAN JAMES 1849    Co down
Birth Record COWAN JAMES 1851    Co down 
Births COWAN JAMES JOSEPH 1853    Down

Which should keep everybody busy into the new year!
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Re: Birth Records Newry - COWAN
« Reply #5 on: Friday 14 March 14 10:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi, my great, great grandfather was Jas Cowan of Newry, married Harriet Boynes of Dublin in Ireland, came over to England ( don't know when) started in Birkenhead and finished up in liverpool.  My great grandmother was Margaret Cowan, Hesketh, Guest and finally Findlay.  My dad was from the Hesketh marriage (also Margaret) she died when my father was a few months old, my maiden name is Roberts. My brother has the tree on ancestry but getting nowhere with the Cowan or Boynes side of things.

Have you anything?

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Re: Birth Records Newry - COWAN
« Reply #6 on: Friday 14 March 14 11:28 GMT (UK) »
only about your family in England
James was a Blacksmith striker in 1881 census  b 1846
Harriet his wife was 22 in 1881 with four children, the oldest of which is 5, all the children b Birkenhead.
She was a widow in 1911 b 1859
my guess is they married before 1877
James is not in the English census 1871
So guessing they emigrated between 1872-76 so going back to connections in Newry or Dublin their marriage should be available from GRONI or GRO Dublin and it might give more relatives as parents or as witnesses.  Can any one help Jayne please?
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Re: Birth Records Newry - COWAN
« Reply #7 on: Friday 14 March 14 13:39 GMT (UK) »
Staying on Jaynes – James Cowan line, I thought I had found the marriage on Familysearch.org which has a marriage in Newry for 1875  but that is for a James Cowan m Harriet Boynes, BUT I did not succeed in getting the reverse ie a  Harriet Boynes m James Cowan. I think the familysearch searchengine only hunted for Cowan  The familysearch.org references are
Volume Number   11
Page Number   937
GS Film number   101252
Digital Folder Number   004179385
Using a similar site www.emeraldancestors.com I discovered that that James was marrying a Mary.............. The website has no Boynes, but does have some Boyne
So unless you can did other James Cowans on familysearch it’s a brickwall down that one.

In Griffiths valuation homesteads in 1864 in Newry civil parish Co Down included
Cowan   Robert   Drumcashellone
Cowan   Maria   Croreagh
Cowan   Robert   Saval More
Cowan   William Benagh
Cowan   William Croreagh
Cowan   Margaret Lindsay's Hill,in Newry itself
Cowan   Joseph   Postley Place,in Newry itself
Cowan   Isaac   Desert
Cowan   John   Benagh
Cowan   John   Finnard
Cowan   Joseph   Benagh
Cowan   Agnes   Finnard
I know I have already listed these before BUT one or more above should be James parents with luck, James would be 18 and already learning his later blacksmithing or similar, probably learning such a skill in Newry itself or a farm.
In 1861 street directory, http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk there are three Blacksmiths as such listed
Connolly, Thomas, blacksmith, 9 Canal Street.
Mooney, John, blacksmith, 97 Hill Street.
McClelland, Robert, blacksmith, Hill Street.
There would be a whitesmiths and horse establishments and farms are notlisted or
In the 1852 street directory t http://www.lennonwylie.co.uk here is
Cowan, James, grocer and spirit merchant, 39 Water Street

 James children got baptized in a variety of churches in Liverpool / Birkenhead are the oldest was in a Church of England  church.  If either of the parents were a church of Ireland spouse they might be recorded in Ros davies churches eg
St. Patrick's Church of Ireland in Church Street , Newry.  Her entry reads Baptisms 1847- 1926; burials 1862- 1919 at PRONI Mic/1/120 & Dublin 2034; marriages 1784-1963; Graveyard attached, gravestones UHF Vol 21; email me Ros for a gravestone look-up So that is one year too late if 1846 is accurate for his baptism but ok for his marriage possibility.
St. Mary's Church of Ireland in Needham Place (now called John Mitchell Place ) , in the centre of Newry
Records available; Baptisms 1804-1814; 1817; 1819 & 1822-1894; marriages 1784- 1963; burials 1824- 1876; index of baptisms , amrriages & burials 1784- c. 1910; vestry minutes 1775-1948; select vestry minutes 1877- 1909; registers of vestrymen 1870- 1935; preacher's books 1878- 1957; registers of pews occupied 1886- 1926 & subscribers 1886- 1959;No graveyard; but the memorial inscriptions inside the church are in UHF Vol 21; email me Ros davies for a memorial look-up; burials at the old St. Patrick's Church of Ireland on the hill.  LDS have on FHL British Film #259218 parish registers 1784-1901
So a James Cowan search here might be useful for both.

There is a http://www.one-name.org/profiles/boyns which doesn’t cover the irish locations but the author might help you in anything she has found,  her spelling variations include Boyen, Bowen, Bosswen, Boyens, Boynes Boyns
So just checking all Boyens/Boyne/Boynes/Boyns only Dublin in Griffiths Valuation in 1849 see http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation ,  the only one I could find find was a Anne Boyne living in Pelletstown, Castlenock North Dublin.  So it is a very rare name in any these spellings, which the producers of the work standardized in many cases, I think if you go wider eg Bowen, you open the floodgates there are some 900 entries .

So that’s as far as I can go
Please help Jayne onwards
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Re: Birth Records Newry - COWAN
« Reply #8 on: Friday 14 March 14 17:52 GMT (UK) »
Today on ancestry.com I have been invited to see four new data sources
They are relevant and have catholic records for the Boynes spelling. I attempt to attach the summary for  two

Harriet Boynes
Liverpool Hetherington Family Tree
Birth:  dd mm 1859 - Ireland
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