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Re: Jack Phillips from Wales to New Zealand
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 14 September 14 20:27 BST (UK) »
Frustrating indeed. Also that I cannot find him on the 1911 census return anywhere!

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Re: Jack Phillips from Wales to New Zealand
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 14 September 14 20:37 BST (UK) »
If that is his marriage in 1912, the chances are that he is somewhere in Wales in 1911.
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Re: Jack Phillips from Wales to New Zealand
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 14 September 14 20:39 BST (UK) »
Just a thought.......................... :D  I have them sometimes  ;D

Have you looked at the shipping to Australia,a lot seemed to go that way

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Re: Jack Phillips from Wales to New Zealand
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 14 September 14 20:48 BST (UK) »
It looks like he may have gone to the South Island first as they both seem to appear in Central Otago as well as the Wairarapa in 1928

Lily Phillips                 1928    Central Otago    Otago
John Morris Phillips    1928    Central Otago    Otago

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Re: Jack Phillips from Wales to New Zealand
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 14 September 14 20:57 BST (UK) »
CP - I've sent you a PM about the 1911 as I am sure that is the correct marriage. I think Lily Griffiths was a widow when she married John. Her husband died in Sept quarter 1911. Too many coincidences for it not to be  the right one.
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Re: Jack Phillips from Wales to New Zealand
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 14 September 14 21:35 BST (UK) »
What an interesting story and somehow it sounds familiar so I'm wondering if I've done some research on this for someone else in the past.

As a matter of interest, CP, I live in Talgarth; and Morris is a not uncommon name round here.  There are a number of Morris graves in the churchyard.  Trefecca (aka Trevecca) is a small village about two miles from Talgarth and the College Terrace is still there.

Interesting the marriage in Llanelly - which should not be confused with Llanelli as they are different places.  A lot of people from this area went to work in the Llanelly/Blaenavon area, which was heavily industrialised with coal  mines as well as ironworks.  Here is a photo of Llanelly as it is today. 

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Re: Jack Phillips from Wales to New Zealand
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 14 September 14 22:28 BST (UK) »
Yes Janette, that makes sense as I was told he went to the South Island first but I was given Nelson as an area of interest.

I think I am now satisfied that Lily Griffiths was indeed the widow of James Griffiths when she married John. She had two children Annie L Griffiths and John Horace Griffiths in 1911

Hi GS and thanks for the info and photo. I did visit Talgarth a few years ago and saw College Terrace, it is all a lovely area and I hope to return someday. I have been chasing this story for years so it might have been me that you have had contact with in the past.

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Re: Jack Phillips from Wales to New Zealand
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 14 September 14 22:44 BST (UK) »
By the way Janette, yes I have been looking at Australia with no luck  :(

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Re: Jack Phillips from Wales to New Zealand
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 14 September 14 22:50 BST (UK) »
This looks like Lily and James's marriage


Marriages Jun 1899   
Brace    Lily        Llanelly    11a   1553      
Griffiths    James     Llanelly   

Then following Lily's marriage to John, birth of their child

Births Dec 1913   
Phillips    John     mother's mn Brace    Llanelly    11a   2495   
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