Doyle/Caine of Douglas

[erik45]

I am trying to trace the line of John Doyle (b 1848?) who married Mary Ann Caine on 11.6.1872 at St Barnabas, Douglas. I think John's father may have been from Ireland ( also called John, b. 1791?) and Mary Ann Caine's father was called Patrick. I am having trouble finding anything more online and wondered if anyone might point me in the right direction? Thank you!

[CaroleW]

Hi and welcome to Rootschat

1871 IOM has no entry for a John Doyle

1881 shows only Mary Ann & children - widow is crossed out and she is shown as married.

In 1891 she is a widow but there are 2 children born after the 1881 census but in Barrow in Furness

Did you get John's birthyear via his age on his marriage cert?

What was his occupation

[Frances_mnb]

you are looking in wrong place - try Roman Catholic - bapt 18470718 fa John Doyle - mother nancy smythe (or Ann south is another child - however the priest's hand was very bad and not alawys easy to read - married as smith) - married 18440220 (roman catholic and  fam in Douglas in 1851 John is a blind basket maker at 1 back Sand St (now back Strand street)

Did you try www.imuseum.im

[erik45]

you are looking in wrong place - try Roman Catholic - bapt 18470718 fa John Doyle - mother nancy smythe (or Ann south is another child - however the priest's hand was very bad and not alawys easy to read - married as smith) - married 18440220 (roman catholic and  fam in Douglas in 1851 John is a blind basket maker at 1 back Sand St (now back Strand street)

Did you try www.imuseum.im

Hi, thanks for your reply.  The 1851 census records mother as Ann. I'm a bit confused by the different names of mother ( Ann South/ Nancy Smyth) in the baptism register.

[Frances_mnb]

south is a misread Smith - I've actually seen a photocopy of original reg and smith is correct - the usual transcription is that from a 1849 transcription done by the parish priest as a new act of Tynwald 'legalised' non-conformist and Roman Catholic Baptisms and marriages - his hand on this copy is even worse than usual.
Ann = Nancy (with a Nancy on my knee ...) Smyth is an alternate for Smith
Look up Roman Catholic under parishes on my website www.manxnotebook.com