Martin, Whittingham, Galbraith Short Family

[bantumi69]

sure will. 

[bantumi69]

ok already a developement i sent out the info to family and i was told that first my great grandfather Robert married Sarah Elizabeth Jones from st helena.  Also she sent me this info via email:

Hi,

The Robert Galbraith Short below that was born in St Helena (? Would that make us saints and not Scots? LOL) in 1875 could very well have been my grandfather because the dates fit.  He died at the age of 84 in Alberton when I was 6 which was in 1959, which counts back to 1875.

The only Jane Short we have turned up so far was one of the children mentioned in the email attached.

So i see how difficult this can be now, its a good challenege i suppose 

[bantumi69]

oh and Alberton is a town in south africa.

[MonicaL]

...and i was told that first my great grandfather Robert married Sarah Elizabeth Jones from st helena...

Guess you mean grandfather Robert b. 1875? If so, Leslie William Short was the son of Robert Galbraith Short b. 1875 and Sarah Elizabeth Jones?

So Robert Galbraith Short b. 1875 married a girl from St Helena? They could have married there perhaps? Gone on straight to SA?

Monica

[bantumi69]

i believe they were married first before coming to SA, its me then my mom sharon, then my grandfather leslie and thereafter my great grandfather robert.  This could maybe explain why leslie birth cannot be found in scotland or st helena maybe he was born here in SA.

[bedfordshire boy]

See http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,372384.msg4862264.html#msg4862264 for my thoughts on the mother of the illegitimate Robert Galbraith b 1839, later known as Robert Galbraith Short after he was adopted by his mother's sister

[bedfordshire boy]

I don't like to leave loose ends dangling, so here's an update on the Galbraith family. A visitor to St Helena recently sent me photographs of the wills of Robert Galbraith who died in 1868,and Robert Galbraith Short, his nephew born 1838, who died in 1911.

In the earlier will Robert Galbraith consistently referred to his nephew as Robert Galbraith Roper, then ruled through Roper and added Short above and initialled the alteration. There's a birth registration in Berwick-upon-Tweed in the Dec quarter 1838 of Robert Galbraith Roper (don't ask; no idea how I failed to spot this three years ago!). The birth cert arrived last week and his parents are shown as John Roper, shoemaker, and Jane Roper formerly Galbraith. The informant was Jane Roper. One problem: I can't see a marriage between John Roper and Jane Galbraith. I can find John Roper shoemaker and Jane Galbraith in subsequent censuses, but are unmarried and not living together. But no John and Jane Roper. Cynical old codger that I am, I suspect that Jane Galbraith registered the birth as Roper to hide the illegitimacy.

Jane Galbraith was the sister of Robert Galbraith on St Helena, and of Eleanor Short née Galbraith who adopted Robert Galbraith Roper.

bantumi69 - Robert Galbraith Short married Elizabeth Denton in 1863 in St Helena, and had a son Robert Galbraith Short in 1875. Did this Robert Galbraith Short move to South Africa at some time after 1896 (when he was initiated into the Freemasons in St Helena)?