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Trying to find a birth - Sarah Wilde, born c1847
« on: Saturday 22 March 14 15:07 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to find the birth of a Sarah Wilde, born c1847, in Shrposhire.  In most of the census returns 1861, 1881-1901 she gives her place of birth as Wem, Shropshire.  In 1911 she gives it as Dudleston, Shropshire. I cannot find her in the 1851 or 1871.  On her marriage certificate in 1880 at Everton, when she married a Thomas Shaw, she gives her father as William Wilde, Farm Servant. No occupation given and residence given as Grove House, Wavertree.

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Re: Trying to find a birth - Sarah Wilde, born c1847
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 22 March 14 17:48 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

When Sarah is in Isombridge in 1861, there is a John Wilde 14 yrs born Wem in the same household.

1851 HO107 1997/139/ 23  has a Sarah 6 yrs and John 4 yrs with parents Thomas and Mary. They are written as Wild but transcribed as Weld.
I realise father's name is wrong but thought it was interesting.

In 1861 both children are missing from the family group. They are living in Rodington area, in Sugden.

1871 has a Sarah Wild(e) born 'Rugton' - a servant in Tilston Fearnall, Cheshire

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Re: Trying to find a birth - Sarah Wilde, born c1847
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 March 14 10:23 GMT (UK) »
on her marriage record she is 33 and a witness is Annie Wilde - is she Sarahs sister ??

Marriage: 26 Oct 1880 St George, Everton, Lancashire, England
 Thomas Shaw - 33, Labourer, Bachelor, 7 Lansdowne Place
 Sarah Wilde - 33, Spinster, Grove House Wavertree
     Groom's Father: William Shaw, Farm Servant
     Bride's Father: William Wilde, Farm Servant
     Witness: Alexander Shaw; Annie Wilde
     Married by Banns by: H. J. Langley Curate
 so unless she was born between 26th oct -31st dec - she was born 1847...
no Sarah Wilde born 1846-1847 in Shropshire on freebmd??
so now I am confused ....

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Re: Trying to find a birth - Sarah Wilde, born c1847
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 23 March 14 10:34 GMT (UK) »
Yes she does have a sister Annie  :)

There's a Sarah Wylde December 1848 :-\
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Re: Trying to find a birth - Sarah Wilde, born c1847
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 23 March 14 10:43 GMT (UK) »
Yes she does have a sister Annie  :)

There's a Sarah Wylde December 1848 :-\

thanks Heywood - so - sods law ...lol..." unless she was born 26th oct to 31st dec" ...and she was - that will teach me not to presume
I will look for Annie and Sarah now ....cheers

added   Sarah Ann Woodward Wilde dec 1848  shrewsbury ....is that the one you mean ??
what year and where is Annie Wylde registered ??
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Re: Trying to find a birth - Sarah Wilde, born c1847
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 23 March 14 13:49 GMT (UK) »
The one I meant is Sarah Wylde Wellington vol 18 pg 183 December 1848 but not sure!

I can't yet see the family in 1851  - forgot - I think they are Weld  ::) and Sarah is 6 yrs old. ???
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Re: Trying to find a birth - Sarah Wilde, born c1847
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 23 March 14 14:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Looking at the year of birth on the census we have

1881 b 1847

After she becomes a widow we have

1891 b 1852
1891 b 1852
1901 b 1853
1911 b 1853

So I think that Sarah may have been born between 1852/1853

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Re: Trying to find a birth - Sarah Wilde, born c1847
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 23 March 14 15:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Looking at the year of birth on the census we have

1881 b 1847

After she becomes a widow we have

1891 b 1852
1891 b 1852
1901 b 1853
1911 b 1853

So I think that Sarah may have been born between 1852/1853

Margp

she says she is 33 on marriage record of 1880....if she was b 1852/3 she would be 27-28 ...can`t see her being 5 to 6 years out on her age on marriage details ??
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Re: Trying to find a birth - Sarah Wilde, born c1847
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 23 March 14 15:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Looking at the year of birth on the census we have

1881 b 1847

After she becomes a widow we have

1891 b 1852
1891 b 1852
1901 b 1853
1911 b 1853

So I think that Sarah may have been born between 1852/1853

Margp

she says she is 33 on marriage record of 1880....if she was b 1852/3 she would be 27-28 ...can`t see her being 5 to 6 years out on her age on marriage details ??
She may have lied to keep inline with her husbands age, and there are only 2 records born with her born 1847 and that is when she is with her husband
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